Why Antichess is now renamed Giveaway ? What purpose does it serve ?
NEW 4PC SUCKS i HATE iT
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Mar 29, 2022
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#63
ChessMasterGS wrote:
LosChessquire wrote:
Exactly, we can't win every game, but at least we weren't losing points every game we don't get 1st. For those who wanted to play Solo which was dead before the merger, they could play Solo, but for the rest of us who enjoyed playing FFA, we no longer can.
This new format favors the players who were weak in the 4 Player stage.
Los, how does it "favor the players who were weak in the 4 Player stage"? I'm kinda curious
We were talking about this on Radon's stream earlier, head about 30 minutes into the stream.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1440419470
I may have chosen the wrong wording, let me explain what I mean.
In FFA, it's essential to work with your opposite and mate one of the flanks to take the game into the 3 player stage. This secured "Not 4th", and we had a game where 3 players are playing for 1st. Only 1st and 4th matter, but at least we weren't losing points for getting 2nd or 3rd.
With the Solo format, and the New Standard that's really no longer the case. Players tend to be more selfish in solo games, this format favors players who are passive and don't really work with their opposite in the 4 player stage, since they're all looking out for #1.
There were a lot of FFA players who had little to no Team's experience, they're pretty weak in the 4 player stage. I know from experience, it's why I started playing Teams. 
"In FFA, it's essential to work with your opposite and mate one of the flanks to take the game into the 3 player stage. "
Except for that very small percentage of games where attacking the opposite early actually works out. Which is why I got a lot of hate and was known as the "traitor" lol
"This secured "Not 4th", and we had a game where 3 players are playing for 1st. Only 1st and 4th matter, but at least we weren't losing points for getting 2nd or 3rd. "
But yeah the main point about "not getting 4th' is spot on. It was a great relief to avoid that and made taking out the 1st person that much more satisfying. Securing 3rd or better AND taking out an opponent was such a great feeling of accomplishment, killing 2 birds with 1 stone and now that is gone.
What do you think about my idea to increase 2nd and 3rd to +or- 4-5 points making the difference between 2nd and 3rd that much greater? You would still avoid losing a lot of points by getting 4th and there would be an 8-10 point difference between 2nd and 3rd that would REALLY make every point count. I would love to see that.
Mar 29, 2022
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#65
GoldCoinCollector wrote:
What do you think about my idea to increase 2nd and 3rd to +or- 4-5 points making the difference between 2nd and 3rd that much greater? You would still avoid losing a lot of points by getting 4th and there would be an 8-10 point difference between 2nd and 3rd that would REALLY make every point count. I would love to see that.
So similarly to how hyperbullet and variants used to work? Nice idea; they would just need to scale it properly
Still haven't found the self play team, but I was looking forward to this big time. The lobby / play / sections are confusing.
Mar 29, 2022
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#67
GoldCoinCollector wrote:
What do you think about my idea to increase 2nd and 3rd to +or- 4-5 points making the difference between 2nd and 3rd that much greater? You would still avoid losing a lot of points by getting 4th and there would be an 8-10 point difference between 2nd and 3rd that would REALLY make every point count. I would love to see that.
That would've been a much better direction for FFA, the +1 -1 for 2nd and 3rd didn't give enough incentive to keep playing on in certain situations, and would lead to fewer players throwing games as well.
Mar 29, 2022
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#68
Magicsteph wrote:
Still haven't found the self play team, but I was looking forward to this big time. The lobby / play / sections are confusing.
Home > Teams > Self Partnering
https://www.chess.com/variants/self-partner
Mar 29, 2022
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#69
Magicsteph wrote:
Please, note that you still can play the same games than before, it is just harder to set, it may have change name, and you no longer can play for 2nd, which is a major issue for many players, such as Radon or Joobla to name a few, since they used to play for 2nd, and even worse for 3rd place players that only goal was to kill their direct opponents in order not to be last. Now, they no longer can play this, so they don't want to play anymore. They sulk.
When it ain't broken, don't fix it.
I've never seen Radon play for 2nd, he's always advocating and playing for 1st.
In FFA only 1st and 4th matter. GoldCoinCollector covered a rare situation when you would play for 2nd, that's after losing all your material, and having no clear path to get 1st.
Mar 30, 2022
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#70
Magicsteph wrote:
Please, note that you still can play the same games than before, it is just harder to set, it may have change name, and you no longer can play for 2nd, which is a major issue for many players, such as Radon or Joobla to name a few, since they used to play for 2nd, and even worse for 3rd place players that only goal was to kill their direct opponents in order not to be last. Now, they no longer can play this, so they don't want to play anymore. They sulk.
Ha, ahahahaha, the irony of this statement from the king of playing for 2nd. Not sure why I'm even giving you the dignity of a response to such a dumb statement but last time I checked you can get anywhere near a high rating playing for 2nd, not that you would know seeming as you've never been close.
Mar 30, 2022
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#71
ChessMasterGS wrote:
chesswhizz9 wrote:
ChessMasterGS wrote:
chesswhizz9 wrote:
im very mad bec my hyper ratin was 2000+ and now its 1497 not fair
2000+ wow so much
my accomplishment, not yours, why would you care?
I'm just informing the admins that they said they would merge all ratings and this rating they did not. @chessmastergs you've been here for how long? 4 years? me? 1 at least ive done better that most beginners.
This is just personal opinion: But is it not fun to start over again? EVERYONE had their ratings reset. Not just you in particular. The former meta for 2500+ on the hyperbullet leaderboard is now only 2000 in Chaturaji and 1900 in Standard...
Sorry if I offended you, but hopefully you can win some games and maybe get a high ranking
sorry for my bad behavior
-my rating is back with alot of hard work and skill
The new position is supposed to help Green, but I can show you a scenario in this current setting where green is mate in 3, and there's absolutely nothing he can do. All the moves are forced from the opening, and if he doesn't play that, he is mate in 1 or 2 instead of 3.
Once that scenario will be known by all players, nobody will want to play the doomed color : Green.
Here is one :
1/ Red : h3 - Blue : c7 - Yellow : i12 >>> Forcing Green to play : k11 ( Else mate in 1 with Red playing Bg3 then Yellow Qxm9+#)
2/ Red Bg3 - Blue : Qc6 - Yellow : Qxk11 >>> Forcing Green to take the Q : Rxk11
Finally, 3/ Red : Bxm9+ - Blue Qf9 # Mate in 3
Congrats. In this scenario, green is mate in 3 and nothing can prevent it...
Magicsteph wrote:
The new position is supposed to help Green, but I can show you a scenario in this current setting where green is mate in 3, and there's absolutely nothing he can do. All the moves are forced from the opening, and if he doesn't play that, he is mate in 1 or 2 instead of 3.
Once that scenario will be known by all players, nobody will want to play the doomed color : Green.
Here is one :
1/ Red : h3 - Blue : c7 - Yellow : i12 >>> Forcing Green to play : k11 ( Else mate in 1 with Red playing Bg3 then Yellow Qxm9+#)
2/ Red Bg3 - Blue : Qc6 - Yellow : Qxk11 >>> Forcing Green to take the Q : Rxk11
Finally, 3/ Red : Bxm9+ - Blue Qf9 # Mate in 3
Congrats. In this scenario, green is mate in 3 and nothing can prevent it...
I have had a lot hard time keeping my king safe as blue or green in the new position. As I have said before, I get the rationale for it if the computer says it is more even for blue and green, but you REALLY have to learn different opening theory.
Apr 1, 2022
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#77
Yeah this new standard is bad. no creativity. Seems like egos are preventing us from going back to the rules people liked.
Apr 2, 2022
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#78
Wow! So many emotions about that! 
Well, I won't be super negative here, but I don't see why 4 PC needed to be changed. IMO they'd better put that time and effort into adding some new variants, Chess on an infinite plane for example.
Apr 5, 2022
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#79
TomiET wrote:
Mr_Check58 wrote:
Chess on an infinite plane for example.
Well not "infinite"
Not because I don't find this idea really good but computers and hard disk cannot stock "infinite data" It's like why minecraft is not infinite! But yeah then how would be all the figures all around?
I recreated this variant in Chess remix on 34 ×34 board. That is big enough to recreate the piece setup exactly as in Wikipedia and to give some illusion of "infinity". Maybe 30×30 or 40×40 board is realistic on this server, but, well, I'm not pushing it, it's up to admins.
I don't mind most of the changes. The UI is fine and I do have a weird glitch with custom games but everything else runs fine. I haven't played new teams yet so no comment on the new position.
However, whoever decided to remove FFA at high rating and replace it with solo needs to be banned from the internet. Solo is awful and nobody played it for a reason and you removed FFA, the most popular game mode where there were high level matches all the time, for this garbage. Please change it back to 3 0 0 -3, not 3 -1 -1 -1.
Why is there 2 types of rating set up based on your rating ? Why players can play FFA when their rating is low, and forced to play Solo when their rating is higher ? This is rating discrimination.