I don't know if the rule changes are the best or not.
I will say that personally, I like the +40 dynamic that this increases
I don't know if the rule changes are the best or not.
I will say that personally, I like the +40 dynamic that this increases
it can only be triggered when there are 2 players left. So after green resigned and you immediately checkmated him yellow had 15, you had 51. There are 2 reasons 1) Autoresign got triggered because it stops yellow from gifting his material to red so red can surpass green and get 1st by foul play 2) Yellow can't win (the battle between red and yellow, green has nothing to do with this one) so basically, if the game would've kept going, then there's one key point to be kept in consideration WHAT IF red would never resign in that 1v1 (speaking of 15 vs 51 points) yellow is about to win all the material red has and on top of that he would checkmate red after winning all of his material. That would be 9+1+20 that's 30+15 which is 45 points maximum. It doesn't make any sense for the game to keep going because of a chance of potential foul play occurring
Muppet, I am sorry, I don't understand your point in full. You mean mainly I suppose that it would give the power to red to decide who should win, green or yellow, by resigning or not, which could be a perversion of the spirit of the game. But wait, I can revert this argument: by resigning GREEN as well perverted it: if you resign ON PURPOSE in order to win, that becomes a perversion of the spirit of the game as well! Typically, yellow here should be given the option to mate whom he wants and when he wants; I am afraid the new rule introduced a completely new factor. Formerly when only two players remained, of which one has more than 20 points more than the other one, AND was winning, the other player was forced to resign, and that's correct. But to make the same whereas the winner becomes someone else (especially if this someone else resigned ON PURPOSE to arrange that) seems a perversion to me.
We have not changed anything. Autoresign prevents kingmaking by players who cannot win themselves, eg yellow gifting the win to red in this case.
Autoresign only happens in games where 2nd, 3rd, and 4th lose the same, so it doesn't matter at all if yellow gets 4th or 3rd or 2nd.
(But Space, the fact that they became two is the result of the resignation by green. That is for me the perversion of the idea behind the autoresignation by yellow... In this case you should even include the button "claim win" in such cases for green , you see what I mean? If you find that it is Ok to resign in order to win - which seems fundamentally troubling - so you should allow claim the win in such cases rather than oblige players to calculate).
Claim win and autoresign can only ever be an option when only 2 players are left, otherwise there is no limit to how many points a player might make due to doublechecks.
Autoresign algorithm doesn't care what happened outside of 1v1 stage if green got checkmated or resigned/flagged or blue whoever . It only looks at all the points potential 1st 2nd 3rd 4th place when the game entered 1v1 stage. The only players who could mess with points here are red and yellow by one player gifting points (giving free pieces to be taken on purpose) so it got triggered in order to stop any of that since yellow couldn't win. Yellow can't get 1st place at all (yellow can't get 2nd either or should I say surpass red in points (his opponent in 1v1 stage)) so if yellow would gift all the points to red that would be 5+5+1+1+1+1+1 which is 15+51 that's 66+20 which is 86 that's 1st place (all points/maximum) so autoresign got triggered to prevent any foul play
Still unfair, because it means in some cases it becomes advantageous to resign in order to fool the algo and I think it's both perverse and contrary to the spirit of ANY multiplayer game. When you resign, you resign, you say "Ok, I can't win, I won't fight anymore".
Well, it's smart by green to resign, I kinda did resign to win there since he had over 40 points lead over red on move 44 points are 76 to 31, green just denied all his material for red to collect. I think it's enough of a lead to give green the win nevertheless, it doesn't matter if red or green wins it's not like 1st place algo trigger. Autoresiggn was made mainly to prevent let's say it's +1 for 2nd FFA (autoclaim) 1v1 stage it prevents a player in who is completely winning to give/gift the other player in 1v1 stage 2nd place to manipulate the ending and change to score by making deserved 2nd getting 3rd and gifting 2nd to a player who deserves 3rd place. Autoresign is similar, just a solo thing, it prevents unfair (by gifting points) 1st place from happening. Yellow cannot win. Yellow can't get even 2nd place i.e. cannot surpass red in points (1v1 stage) therefore +20 points are given to red and the game is over. It doesn't matter who wins red or green, you just need to be aware of the algorithm in the future and calculate what would happen if a player resigns in 3 player stage. That's a huge lead for green imo, you should have more points if you're expecting to win. One cannot just be passive the whole game and complain in the end, one must win points get a checkmate etc.
It has to be part of solo strategy not to let a player get so far ahead on points. Someone with such a big point lead has earned the win
The same kind of complaining took place with autoclaim. But autoclaim is similar that it protects eliminated players who earned many points. This is good for the game, you can't just sit back and hope to clean up from behind once others are eliminated. It encourages active play.
I've just found out that new (?) autoresign rules have been created. I'm shocked. Was not aware, by no means.
In this game: https://www.chess.com/variants/4-player-chess/game/30220804, a) it's unfair for Y who sacrificed himself so much and finished 4th, whereas he deserved 2nd or 3rd at least, and b) I could still win, whereas the system made the autoresign making me 2nd. UNFAIR.
Who decided that? On which basis? With which idea behind?