New variant idea: True War

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Ryckart

I would like to propose a variant which to me resembles a true "war" between two factions in an open plain. In this variant, it seems logical and interesting that you:

  • have vision only where your pieces can go to
  • can "sacrifice" your pieces however you want
  • don't know how the opponent starts their battle

Hence, I suggest the following variants to be combined:

  • Fog of War (you have limited vision)
  • Capture Anything (you can capture your own pieces)
  • Chess 960 (you don't know how the player starts their battle). Alternatively, each player can decide how to place its pieces (not pawns) on the back rank at the start of the fight

You can also mix in a "no-castling" rule so that you have to be more cautious in order to put your king to safety.

The rest of rules stays the same as standard chess.

I feel like this variant could be very exciting and entairtaining, as well as strategic.  
What do you think about it?

P.S.: I can't find an intriguing name for such a variant except for True War, could you suggest one? happy.png

tacticspotter

how about you allow the player to set up the pieces happy.png

stopwatchX

yeah like automate we should combine automate wth some variants and how about we make it so that you can't see how they set up there pieces u could mix it in wth blindfold too

2000Knights

How about combined with Extra large chess? ( I think the new variants in beta) 

tacticspotter
ravigagne 写道:

How about combined with Extra large chess? ( I think the new variants in beta) 

if we continue adding it would be auto fog atomic no castling capture anything 3 check blindfold torpedo sideways pawn pawn back XXL chess petrified hill 

legendary variant

SJ_SJ

What about something like chess2(which i never tried)

2000Knights

How about, we don't do atomic, petrified hill, and 3 check? Also, we can add crazy house?

2000Knights

Wait, let's keep atomic. 

Ryckart

I appreciate your fantasy guys grin.png

Everything can be added I suppose, but at first I would like it with just a few variants combined, not everyone. I believe it will already be extremely challenging with the three variants I proposed in the first post

KnockKnockItstheFBI

+1

tacticspotter
Ryckart 写道:

I appreciate your fantasy guys

Everything can be added I suppose

opposite side castling no castling

Ryckart
tacticspotter wrote:
Ryckart 写道:

I appreciate your fantasy guys

Everything can be added I suppose

opposite side castling no castling

Opposite side castling doesn't make sense to me, whereas No Castling could be interesting. In that case, and if chess 960 is chosen, I would also eliminate the rule that the king has to be placed in between the rooks at the start of the match. 

tacticspotter
Ryckart 写道:
tacticspotter wrote:
Ryckart 写道:

I appreciate your fantasy guys

Everything can be added I suppose

opposite side castling no castling

Opposite side castling doesn't make sense to me, whereas No Castling could be interesting. In that case, and if chess 960 is chosen, I would also eliminate the rule that the king has to be placed in between the rooks at the start of the match. 

no I am just talking about how everything can be added you say

while these two will never come together

Ryckart
tacticspotter wrote:
Ryckart 写道:
tacticspotter wrote:
Ryckart 写道:

I appreciate your fantasy guys

Everything can be added I suppose

opposite side castling no castling

Opposite side castling doesn't make sense to me, whereas No Castling could be interesting. In that case, and if chess 960 is chosen, I would also eliminate the rule that the king has to be placed in between the rooks at the start of the match. 

no I am just talking about how everything can be added you say

while these two will never come together

Yes of course, I understand. Between the two I would prefer no castling because I don't like the idea of forcing a king not to castle the same way as the other king

LongTermFuture

I like this idea. I've been wanting to play Fog of War Chess960 chess ever since getting used to the standard openings in regular Fog of War chess.

Adding in the Capture Anything rules would also be interesting, though it would substantially change the gameplay.

LongTermFuture

I'd also love to play Asymmetrical Fog of War Chess960 chess -- same as Fog of War Chess960 chess, except each player's starting setup is independently chosen randomly.

You could also do Fog of War Choice Chess960 chess -- same as Asymmetrical Fog of War Chess960, except instead of each player's starting setup being chosen randomly, they each get to choose their starting setup.

Ryckart
LongTermFuture wrote:

I like this idea. I've been wanting to play Fog of War Chess960 chess ever since getting used to the standard openings in regular Fog of War chess.

Adding in the Capture Anything rules would also be interesting, though it would substantially change the gameplay.

Yeah I know the playstyle will change substantially, but I like the idea of faster development and unexpected turnarounds!

And I approve the idea of asymmetry in case we go for Chess960 instead of choosing how to setup the pieces at the start.

+1

Ryckart

I managed to create a first prototype of my "True War" variant by combining the following already-present variants:

  • Fog of War
  • Chess 960
  • Capture Anything

You can look at an example game right here, I just played it a few minutes ago
https://www.chess.com/variants/custom/game/16487289/48/3

Ideally, I would like my variant to be Asymmetrical 960 (or Choice 960, where players can decide at the start of the match where to put their backrank pieces) and add the No Castling rule.

Does someone want to try this variant? If yes please do tell me happy.png

nlowhim

would love to mix FOW with 960. 

ConfusingPlayer

I don't think it would be fair for the two sides to be set up differently. I would suggest that the two sides would be set up the same like they are in Chess960.