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AkashKadel

So I am playing in nationals and based on previous tournaments I will be near the bottom middle, which means I’ll be most likely playing experts. How do you play against an opponent with a 1000 Elo rating gap?

whyidontratehigh

Elo gaps just mean they are better at board manipulation just play super defense

SurroundSoundDad

Playing super defensive is not a good option, playing defensive is how you get crushed by how well they will exploit the fact that you aren't taking control of the center of the board. I would say focus on playing good moves. don't think about your opponents rating just focus on playing your best chess. Don't gamble with your moves (like when you see a tactic that could happen if your opponent plays a bad move) and make sure that you have done your opening prep. I regularly play people that are rated about 800 points higher than me OTB and it seems to me that the few wins ( I think im 3-30+ against the two that I regularly play against) that I have had have come from just playing well (not blundering) and noticing a small mistake that they made.

Ace0fD1amonds

Many people playing who are above you will be motivated to push for a win and so may overstep and not take draws when they should, not a definite answer but try to keep it in mind, it may help!

mcmodern

at 1000 points difference in rating, nothing we say here will matter much. Just enjoy the game and have fun, you don't get to play 2000+ plus rated players often right?

10can10

Just play solid and take care of your pieces. Not much to say but a 1000 point elo gap is a lot to overcome.

SAOCM
mcmodern wrote:

at 1000 points difference in rating, nothing we say here will matter much. Just enjoy the game and have fun, you don't get to play 2000+ plus rated players often right?

Unless of course, you are a 2000

jetoba

I am guessing you are talking about the first round pairings. After that the normal Swiss rules will give you opponents closer rated to you (well, if you draw or win the first round then you will still be paired up significantly in round two, and if you win in both of the first two rounds then you will still play strong opponents - though you probably won't mind too much at that point).

Swamp_Varmint
mcmodern wrote:

at 1000 points difference in rating, nothing we say here will matter much. Just enjoy the game and have fun, you don't get to play 2000+ plus rated players often right?

Only really sensible comment so far. There's no point playing defensive or exploiting the fact they are pushing for a win. Play the best you can. Learn from it what you can.

Peter_Khain
AkashForGM wrote:

So I am playing in nationals and based on previous tournaments I will be near the bottom middle, which means I’ll be most likely playing experts. How do you play against an opponent with a 1000 Elo rating gap?

What's your grade? I'm playing too

thedorkboss

drop out of nationals

jetoba
EpicGM100 wrote:
Gryph0nM4chine wrote:
AkashForGM wrote:

So I am playing in nationals and based on previous tournaments I will be near the bottom middle, which means I’ll be most likely playing experts. How do you play against an opponent with a 1000 Elo rating gap?

What's your grade? I'm playing too

Im pretty sure it's state nationals so you also have to know what state he's in

My first guess would have been the National School Grade in Orlando next month.

AkashKadel
Gryph0nM4chine wrote:
AkashForGM wrote:

So I am playing in nationals and based on previous tournaments I will be near the bottom middle, which means I’ll be most likely playing experts. How do you play against an opponent with a 1000 Elo rating gap?

What's your grade? I'm playing too

8th

AkashKadel
EpicGM100 wrote:
Gryph0nM4chine wrote:
AkashForGM wrote:

So I am playing in nationals and based on previous tournaments I will be near the bottom middle, which means I’ll be most likely playing experts. How do you play against an opponent with a 1000 Elo rating gap?

What's your grade? I'm playing too

Im pretty sure it's state nationals so you also have to know what state he's in

its national k12 grade championships

Swamp_Varmint
EpicGM100 wrote:
AkashForGM wrote:
EpicGM100 wrote:
Gryph0nM4chine wrote:
AkashForGM wrote:

So I am playing in nationals and based on previous tournaments I will be near the bottom middle, which means I’ll be most likely playing experts. How do you play against an opponent with a 1000 Elo rating gap?

What's your grade? I'm playing too

Im pretty sure it's state nationals so you also have to know what state he's in

its national k12 grade championships

I'm going to Orlando too! Also if it is your first time going please don't play in like K12 or K8 for normal sections, there are going to be a handful of people going to be 1800+ I suggest going to K-8 U1000 or K-12 U1100, last year I was like 1200 and I went to K-8 and got crushed (2/5) and only beating 600 and 800

Scholastic players are known for being underrated, since they gain very fast all year and play hardly any rated games. At least that's always been said, though I hear USCF is mostly scholastics nowadays so I don't know what has changed.

jetoba
EpicGM100 wrote:
AkashForGM wrote:
EpicGM100 wrote:
Gryph0nM4chine wrote:
AkashForGM wrote:

So I am playing in nationals and based on previous tournaments I will be near the bottom middle, which means I’ll be most likely playing experts. How do you play against an opponent with a 1000 Elo rating gap?

What's your grade? I'm playing too

Im pretty sure it's state nationals so you also have to know what state he's in

its national k12 grade championships

I'm going to Orlando too! Also if it is your first time going please don't play in like K12 or K8 for normal sections, there are going to be a handful of people going to be 1800+ I suggest going to K-8 U1000 or K-12 U1100, last year I was like 1200 and I went to K-8 and got crushed (2/5) and only beating 600 and 800

The National School Grade is different from the spring nationals. It has 13 sections, one for each grade from Kindergarten to 12th. There are no rating based sections and the players must play in the section for their grade in school. The advance entries at this point can be seen here https://www.uschess.org/tournaments/2023/k12/?page=ADVANCE 

and are at 1838 at this moment.

Last year it had 2461 players and there are still three weeks to get more registrations. A 2 out of 7 score was reasonable for a 12th grader rated 800 or for a 1st grader rated 400. A person rated 1000 was in the top 5% in 1st grade and about the 40th percentile in 12th grade.

jetoba

The Thursday night blitz has both overall and class trophies, with the class trophies sometimes being taken by low scoring players because there are not that many lower-rated players. There are currently 16 under 1000 in the K-12 blitz (110 registered) and 32 under 800 in the K-6 blitz (137 registered), with three trophies for the lowest rating class in each of the two sections.

There are still five days left for the second deadline (of four) for entries. The second deadline fee is 125% of the first. The third deadline fee is 162.5% of the first. The fourth (final) deadline fee is 225% of the first.

The December rating supplement is being used and I'm not sure if the advance entries reflect the November or December rating supplement.

jetoba
EpicGM100 wrote:
 

I've never herd of this tournament I'm probably not going to go because I don't want to lose to a 1000 who is having a good day and is playing like Magnus himself but in this case he is talking about nationals as he said he is playing in K-12

The name of the tournament is the National K-12 Grade Championship and has sometimes been called the National School Grade. Unlike the spring national scholastics it has 13 sections (one for each of the 13 grades) and no rating based sections. The US Chess website link is in my earlier post.

There are ratings based class medals (up to 1600-1899 in 12th grade or 800-999 in kindergarten). I did slightly misspeak earlier. All individual awards are medals, not trophies. Trophies are only for team awards.

10can10
jetoba wrote:
EpicGM100 wrote:
 

I've never herd of this tournament I'm probably not going to go because I don't want to lose to a 1000 who is having a good day and is playing like Magnus himself but in this case he is talking about nationals as he said he is playing in K-12

The name of the tournament is the National K-12 Grade Championship and has sometimes been called the National School Grade. Unlike the spring national scholastics it has 13 sections (one for each of the 13 grades) and no rating based sections. The US Chess website link is in my earlier post.

There are ratings based class medals (up to 1600-1899 in 12th grade or 800-999 in kindergarten). I did slightly misspeak earlier. All individual awards are medals, not trophies. Trophies are only for team awards.

no there is nothing rating based in the tournament

jetoba
10can10 wrote:
jetoba wrote:
EpicGM100 wrote:
 

I've never herd of this tournament I'm probably not going to go because I don't want to lose to a 1000 who is having a good day and is playing like Magnus himself but in this case he is talking about nationals as he said he is playing in K-12

The name of the tournament is the National K-12 Grade Championship and has sometimes been called the National School Grade. Unlike the spring national scholastics it has 13 sections (one for each of the 13 grades) and no rating based sections. The US Chess website link is in my earlier post.

There are ratings based class medals (up to 1600-1899 in 12th grade or 800-999 in kindergarten). I did slightly misspeak earlier. All individual awards are medals, not trophies. Trophies are only for team awards.

no there is nothing rating based in the tournament

Check the link and look for class medals. Each grade has only a single section for all players in that grade, but the awards have both overall medals and class medals.

Class medals to the top three in the following classes:
12th Grade Championship
1600-1899; 1300-1599; 1000-1299; Under 1000.
11th Grade Championship
1600-1899; 1300-1599; 1000-1299; Under 1000.
10th Grade Championship
1600-1899; 1300-1599; 1000-1299; Under 1000.
9th Grade Championship
1600-1899; 1300-1599; 1000-1299; Under 1000.
8th Grade Championship
1400-1699; 1100-1399; 800-1099; Under 800.
7th Grade Championship
1400-1699; 1100-1399; 800-1099; Under 800.
6th Grade Championship
1400-1699; 1100-1399; 800-1099; Under 800.
5th Grade Championship
1100-1399; 800-1099; 600-799; Under 600.
4th Grade Championship
1100-1399; 800-1099; 600-799; Under 600.
3rd Grade Championship
1000-1199; 800-999; 600-799; Under 600.
2nd Grade Championship
1000-1199; 800-999; 600-799; Under 600.
1st Grade Championship
800-999; 600-799; 400-599; Under 400.
Kindergarten Championship
800-999; 600-799; 400-599; Under 400.