Positional play exercise (six questions)

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Batman2508 wrote:

are you going to make one like this in the future?

do you want me to?

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Batman2508 wrote:

are you going to make one like this in the future?

Oh ya, pls do more like these

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B1ZMARK wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:

are you going to make one like this in the future?

do you want me to?

yes do one like every week if possible

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I think everyone wants you too.

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1. It's not a good move per se but it's not as bad as it could be if black was able to nc6 and put pressure on d4/ng4 comes with tempo on the bishop

2. I'm not sure that's what I would have played

3. I'd say it's balanced as black needs to play f5 to activate both bishops, and black will need at least 2 moves to set that up. If i had to pick a side, black by a slight amount

4. 18. ng5 is just a wasted move as black just plays h6 and kicks the knight anyway

5. instead of re3, nb1 to nd2 would  be my plan, reinforcing the center and the f3 knight

6. It's bad because it just weakens the kingside structure. White can't play g3 to defend it as it creates too many weaknesses, and the h4 pawn can just be attacked easily

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Batman2508 wrote:

I think everyone wants you too.

^

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MrIndia wrote:

0. I'm very bad at positional play

1. Not very good as bishop is tied to the e pawn and can't do anything else but ok I think. Maybe better would be nd2 then be2 then castling I will give you full point for this, because of the second sentence. A better way to explain would be, white doesn't know where his bishop would like to be. It may want to be on d3, or e2, or c4. however, his knight must go to d2. So therefore Nd2 was the better move, and Bd3 is an inaccuracy. We see that after black plays ...e5, white's d3 bishop is suddenly looking extremely stupid on d3.

2. Idk, maybe black has more center control. Also, White's pieces, tho out, seem underdeveloped with no good squares. Incorrect. Look at the way white organized his pawns.

3. Black better as has more active pieces while White's minor pieces are cramped

Half point. Which pieces in particular? Doesn't white have the d file?

4. Useless move as white knight can't go anywhere other than f3 from here. If plan was to take on f7 then, I think that opens f file for Black's attack while white king is undefended

Correct

5. I would've gone for kh2 then g3 and remove black knight. Or maybe c4 to get minor pieces some space Kh2 and g3 still leaves h3 with two attackers. White has some pieces out of play. How do you plan to do that? c4 and black plays b4. Knight goes to b1 and d2, but on d2 it blocks the square of the other knight, and also cannot really go anywhere constructive from d2 anyways.

6. Bg5 then B×N  Q×h to remove only defender maybe Good


 

Also why you ( assuming this is your game) took bishop with pawn and not queen, to control light squares? what?

 

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DaBabysBurner wrote:

1. It's not a good move per se but it's not as bad as it could be if black was able to nc6 and put pressure on d4/ng4 comes with tempo on the bishop I'm not sure what you're talking about but it's not what i was looking for.

2. I'm not sure that's what I would have played Not all captures are good. Look at white's setup.

3. I'd say it's balanced as black needs to play f5 to activate both bishops, and black will need at least 2 moves to set that up. If i had to pick a side, black by a slight amount

Good enough

4. 18. ng5 is just a wasted move as black just plays h6 and kicks the knight anyway Yes

5. instead of re3, nb1 to nd2 would  be my plan, reinforcing the center and the f3 knight

True, but on d2 the knight serves only a defensive purpose. Still, it's better than what white got in the game.

6. It's bad because it just weakens the kingside structure. White can't play g3 to defend it as it creates too many weaknesses, and the h4 pawn can just be attacked easily

Not bad, but there's another reason, a more strategical one.

 

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For 2 you say pawn structure, don't both have same pawn structure except g6 --> g3?

5. Are there really any good moves lol? Maybe nb1 then push a4

Also I was asking about 13.. a×b6 instead of q×b6. I think you didn't want to swap queens

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icyboyyy wrote:

1. it looks fine, it protects e4 while developing a piece There's a difference between "fine" and "good", and it's these small differences. Try again.

2. maybe because it breaks white's strong center of e4 and d4

You're the closest of all the responders so far.

3. black because they can play nf4 in the future, white's a3 knight is doing nothing, and white can't do much on the open d-file

Yes. Was looking for 1) d file means nothing and 2) white's playing without a piece

4. the knight can simply be kicked out with h6 and white's done nothing

Prrecisely

5. white's coordination is horrible, and maybe rd2 would have been better to double up on the d-file, which is pretty much white's only good thing in the position Not great, but it's better than nothing.

6. because white weakens g4, and that pawn becomes a target. if white tries to protect h4 with g3 later, then that weakens the king even more Very close. Only one person has gotten this, but they didn't give a reason. Look for a more strategical reason

 

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MrIndia wrote:

For 1 you say pawn structure, don't both have same pawn structure except g6 --> g3?

5. Are there really any good moves lol? Maybe nb1 then push a4

Also I was asking about 13.. a×b6 instead of q×b6. I think you didn't want to swap queens

5. Yes there are. Nb1 and a4 doesn't really help white's position, though. You have to find a good square for the knight.

after axb6, black's idea is to push b5 and control the squares that white's a3 knight would like to jump to.

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Instead of re3, qc1 ( doesn't matter as it's already passive) nc2-ne3?

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MrIndia wrote:

Instead of re3, qc1 ( doesn't matter as it's already passive) nc2-ne3?

YES!!!!

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Guinea Pig wtf is that???? xD

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Oh I've to scroll sideward to read your post xD

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little_guinea_pig wrote:

wtf happened to my text xD

can you fix

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little_guinea_pig wrote:

ATTEMPT 2:

 

Wrote these answers down before looking at any other comments

  1. It's not a great move, it's a bit premature to see what the best square for the bishop will be. Also, if White ever plays d5, the bishop will be well and truly locked in behind that pawn. There's a reason that the bishop goes to e2 in the KID...correct, exactly what i was looking for. Too early to commit the bishop to d3.
  1. It cedes the center, releasing the tension in an unfavorable way (d5 would have been better), and locks in the LSB behind the pawn (proving that Bd3 wasn't a good move).Very good. Also now white's c3 move looks quite silly.
  1. Black is better - his minor pieces are much better than White's minor pieces, indeed just look at the difference between White's sad knight on a3 and Black's knight which will jump to f4 next move. White has the open file but it doesn't matter much because all  possible invasion squares are controlled.Completely correct.
  1. I'd give it a "?!" ("?" moves for me are ones that are very major positional mistakes, or stuff like dropping a pawn). After Black's h6, White either has to move it back and lose a tempo, or trade in his two best pieces for a rook and pawn (an unfavorable trade already, and that just makes it worse).Exactly that.
  1. When I saw that sad rook on e3, I cringed inwardly. White's coordination is terrible, the knight on f4 prevents the rooks from stacking up. I think that White's better off moving the queen, and then rerouting the a3-knight to c2 and then to other more useful squares. But yeah, Black is much better, that knight on f4 isn't going anywhere anytime soon. (I looked for ways to challenge it and found nothing immediate.)Correct, and correct plan for re-routing the knight.
  2. From a positional standpoint, it weakens the king, gives up control of the g4-square, and weakens the h-pawn some more. From an immediate standpoint, it allows your next Bh6! which threatens the discovered attack on the rook. I think Bg4 is also strong, threatening a possible Bxf3 and Qxh4.Also correct.

Why can't I think like this when I'm actually playing a game? lol

Guinea pig gets a perfect score!

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can I get participation award?

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I don’t believe in participation awards

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