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TheMaudlinOne

i don't understand why, the moment i tell somebody i'm an anarchist, they ask me how i would order society. I wouldn't order it... because i'm not an oppressor.. Society orders itself.  but y'know, if they really want someone to tell them what to do... 

dchrist

@TheMaudlinOne

We cannot choose the perspectives and biases of others. We must meet their objections with simple, clear, concise logic and straightforward communication techniques.

http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Libertarian-Persuasion-Discover-Opening/dp/0975432613

http://theadvocates.donorshops.com/product/SLP2/unlockingmoresecretsoflibertarianpersuasion.php

TheMaudlinOne

i agree with you there, dchrist.  Humiliation (insults) are an institutional strategy to quell dissent, by reducing institutional prestige (lower esteem in eyes of members)

Comrad1

I argee with Adam. Anarcho-capitalism has little to do with anarchism. And though I include Kropotkin and Bakunin (in addition to Proudhon), as the most important contribitures to anarchist theory, it makes no difference: Property is theft, never the less.

AdamRinkleff

Yah, I find it really frustrating how the libertarian "anarcho" capitalists have hijacked the word anarchism. I get it, they like the idea of "no rules", but that's NOT what anarchism means. The word is Greek, and it means "no rulers". Capitalism is inherently about rulers, CEOs and business owners. All the libertarians want is a society where government doesn't regulate the economy, allowing them to pollute and pay low wages and maintain unsafe working conditions. It's ridiculous. That's not anarchism. The libertarian notion of anarchism would basically reduce the average person to slavery, being completely dependent upon those who own property.

Comrad1

I agree, and the difference is like day and night. In my view anarko-capitalism is based on a vulgariced form of darwinism, where competition is viewed as the sole driving force of evolution (and of progress in general). Anarkism is based on mutual aid, as the major driving force of evolution (and of progress in general), and it produces a totally oposite political outcome.

I share your frustrations with the "anarcho"-capitalists. Even their understanding of the word "anarkism" is a vulgar one, reducing it to lawlessness and lack of moral dignity - a scary image promoted by enemies of anarkism, not by anarkists themself. Anarcho-capitalism is in reality "cracy-capitalism", or plutocracy, and I urge all its followers to study what anarkism is really about.