Proposal: New type of daily chess with only a specific time for the whole game shall be used

sometimes daily chess games can go for a year or even more since it has 3 days per move. We sometimes see a certian player making his move in the last second. It can make other side tired. Some premium members avoid moving till the end of his vacation time and then loses in time. It means the other side has to wait for months, the club match's result is not decided due to that coward.

I propose new time control: Sides have can have up to 30 days in total for the whole game.  If an individual wishes, he can think for 20 days and make his first move, then he will have 10 days for his remaining moves. It is like playing classical chess with 1 month at hand. That is the time control. Time for thinking will not restart after you move, the countdown will continue after your opponent moves. It would be too great if it is used in Chess.com World and continental League matches. Some matches have been being played for more than a year because certian players do their move in the last second of his 3 days thinking time.

If an individual wants, he can do his move in a minute and he will still have 1 month left for the rest of the game. He thinks for his second move for 2 days? Then he has 28 days remaining. In this type of time control in daily chess, too few can avoid resigning so that that loss will not be counted on his profile for months. Many club matchs' outcomes will be determined too sooner.

Both daily types shall be in use, players will choose their time control accordingly. Those who want current daily type will choose current one, those who want my proposal would choose the type I proposed.

What do you say? 

This idea has been proposed in Beta forums as well: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggestion-new-type-of-daily-chess-with-only-a-specific-time-for-the-whole-game-shall-be-used 7

Several users supported the idea there, now it is time to propose this idea to general public. Let us have this kind of time control so that our club daily matches will not go for a year.

This idea has been proposed also in forums of the site: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/suggestions/new-type-of-daily-chess-with-only-a-specific-time-for-the-whole-game-shall-be-used 

Now, we are World league players. We are the ones that need it most. Support it if you think it is necessary

UPDATE: 

I do not oppose the current time control, let us have both. Those who want to play with current one, let them play with the current one. Those who want to play with the time control proposed here, let them play with the proposed one.

Why not have both? After all, if someone is opposed to have this type of time control he can avoid it just like we can avoid the current one. But at the moment, we are unable to avoid an opponent that goes to vacation at the critical moment of the game hoping you will die before his vacation ends and eventually winning the game.

considering 90 or so moves being impractical within the time of the proposal, first of all my proposal does not limit the maximum time into 30 days, we may have 45 days or even 60, it will be optional. Secondly, if someone is unable to finish a chess game in a month then let him avoid the matches that have the proposed time control and play with the current time control.

You are too busy and fear your life may interrupt your game resulting in you being unable to finish the game in 30 days? Then, play with the current one and avoid playing in matches that have the proposed time control.

It is that easy.

UPDATE2:

A World League 2017 team match between Canada and Russia was initiated more than a year ago and it is still going on as of the time of writing (07/03/2018 01:56 Ashgabat time): https://www.chess.com/club/matches/team-russia/748146 

Do you still think current time control is OK?

by the way, I also propose World League matches should have no vacation. 

I think that would solve the problem with vacation abuse or delaying the moves on purpose in a lost position. It all depends on how many different time controls they want on their site I guess.

I think it goes against the daily chess concept. I would agree with the "No vacations" rule

I prefer the 3 day time games. Fits in with my lifestyle. If WL games were no vacation I would have to stop playing in them because I need to use my vacation due to my poor health. Otherwise I would time out in a lot of matches and let my teams down.

I couldn't live with that time limit.

It is still daily, you have 30 days to finish your game.

or Bronstein time control type can be used: You have 1 day per move plus 10 extra days that will not be reduced if you move before your day for your move.

We should certianly need something that can avoid players not moving in a lost position and going into vacation hoping you will die in that vacation time.

It of course would.

Nowadays, we have some going into vacation at the critical position of the game hoping you will die during his vacation time.

Moreover, do we start onw round each month? This time control would mean we can finish one round before the next one starts.

Chess.com has been having the existing time controls for good reasons, and they have been successful with it for many years.

Vacation has been an essential part of any kind of correspondence chess forever. You commit to play such a game for a longer time, and the concept is that you play these games in parallel to your normal life, whenever you have some extra time for it. You do not live your entire life with the purpose of playing these games, sometimes (or always?) life is just most important than the hobby of chess. There can be illness, accidents, and periods of just being busy when other things simply have priority.

Chess.com team matches are made to allow as many people to participate as possible. So there are no "no vacation" team matches.

Chess.com has "no-vacation" tournaments, for those players who choose to play games without vacation. Many of these players do not know what they are getting themselves into, or many of them are overestimating their ability or willingness to be ready for making a chess move without ever having the option of vacation, so the percentage of games lost on time in these tournaments is very high. I have never played in a no-vacation tournament, and I have never recommended to anyone to play in such a tournament.

If there is any sports connected with being patient, it is correspondence chess. Even more so in the days when it included the waiting times until the postcards had arrived. It hurts noone when a game lasts for many months, the games do not get lost when there is a longer think or some days of vacation break.

If you think you feel impatient about finishing a game quickly --- why ? Do you want to do other things in your life after finishing the game? You can do other things in your life WHILE you are playing the game

Suggestions like yours with fixed time for all moves have disadvantages of being impractical and unfair. Chess.com is world wide involving players from all time zones. Consider for example two players who regularly have time to view their games and make a move every evening. With players for example 6 hours apart in their time zones, one player will take 6 hours before he sees the opponent's move, while the other will take 18 hours. Not because he is slower at playing chess. but just because he is sleeping and working before seeing the move of the other player.

You cannot assume that both players will be able to be online at the same time and blitz out many moves in a row. If you cannot assume this, then playing any sort of longer games, like a 90 moves game, will become practically impossible with your time control, without one of the players being bound to lose on time.

If you wish to play games in which both players are online at the same time, dedicating some fixed amount of time to being online at the same time without interruption, then play Live Chess on chess.com.

If you wish to play games where the players can happily analyze their moves and make their moves whenever they have time to do so, between players from all over the World without limitations from time zones, easily fitting in the chess games in parallel with their daily lives, then play Daily Chess on chess.com, including taking part in World League team matches

@Ilmago, you are right in your explanations. I do not oppose the current time control, let us have both. Those who want to play with current one, let them play with the current one. Those who want to play with the time control proposed here, let them play with the proposed one.

Why not have both? After all, if someone is opposed to have this type of time control he can avoid it just like we can avoid the current one. But at the moment, we are unable to avoid an opponent that goes to vacation at the critical moment of the game hoping you will die before his vacation ends and eventually winning the game.

considering 90 or so moves being impractical within the time of the proposal, first of all my proposal does not limit the maximum time into 30 days, we may have 45 days or even 60, it will be optional. Secondly, if someone is unable to finish a chess game in a month then let him avoid the matches that have the proposed time control and play with the current time control.

You are too busy and fear your life may interrupt your game resulting in you being unable to finish the game in 30 days? Then, play with the current one and avoid playing in matches that have the proposed time control.

It is that easy.

I would not mind the new time control as an option, but I myself would not play it. As CM ilmago said, daily chess is not our life. We choose the daily option so we can fit it in when we have time for it. If you want to play complete games, then play OTB. Daily chess is a way for those of us who work full time, have children to raise, and many other obligations of life, to stay involved with chess.

Those of you who want the game to complete in 30 days can certainly choose that time control. I would not play, but certainly have no objection to you playing it.

If WL changes to your time control with no vacation, I will simply stop playing in those matches. 

"If there is any sports connected with being patient, it is correspondence chess."    100% agree

I also am a slow player, I need more time to think and I have so many life problems I have to deal with outside of chess. In fast chess I blunder so much due to time control, I lose the games I am winning. these all are my personal problems. 

Now, coming back to 30 days per game: You really can not finish a game in a month? Ok, maybe, it is possible. Not everyone's life is like mine, some are overbusy. But then, you can avoid playing in that kind of matches.

Those like me who are tired of an opponent going into vacation at the critical moment hoping you will die during his vacation time may play with this daily time control.

But which one should be used in World and continental league matches? That is up for discussion, but we certianly should have such time control in general.

I read through all the comments here, nothing much to say except for the following:

- I do like having a specific time allowed for the whole game, but only as an <option>. It's probably not viable for the WL.

- I think the biggest issue is not people being busy with their lives, but those who abuse vacation time (ex. going on vacation - sometimes not ACTUALLY on vacation - just to prolong a clearly lost position for the sake of it). In that case, I think going to chess.com and presenting your "vacation abuse" case would be the better option.

Look at your World League 2017 match against Russia: https://www.chess.com/club/matches/team-russia/748146

It was started on the 15th of January, 2017. More than a year ago and it has been going on since then and it is still going on.

Ok, you are not complaining about it, it is great. I do not mean you should or you shall complain. What I mean is: Matches go on and on with the current daily time control. This proposal could get rid of such plights.

Honestly, I think that the proposal is not without a merit. I don't think that going at it from the high horse of the nature of correspondence chess is entirely right: were there ever team leagues of correspondence chess in the classical ("snail mail") form of it? Or even tournaments for individuals played out in correspondence chess formula? I doubt it .

So, it's worth noticing that we're looking at two somewhat conflicting aspects of organised team "online chess" competition: on one hand, it's aimed at granting the circumstances to participate conveniently in chess competition to as many people as possible; on the other hand, it still is a competition, and many people involved in it care about their team results, they are interested in the current score and anxious to know the final results at the end of the season -- which means that a manner of organisation which would lead to reasonable time frame being held would certainly be desirable. Also, there could always be a question posed: if we want to treat it as a true correspondence-style game, why not opt for 5 days per move or more?

I think that Rehubelent's proposal is quite interesting... Having said that, though, I believe it is also quite impractical in its idea of application. I don't see how this optionality should work. In practice, if two players want to play their match at a reasonable pace and when neither of them plans to abuse the vacation allotment, they will maintain their expected standard without making an agreement on that beforehand. If, on the other hand, one of them tends to use their time in a very liberal way, he or she will simply refuse to play the alternative time control, and this will only create some unnecessary awkwardness.

If tighter time control is needed then this should be stated before. So games, for example tournaments, should be reduced from 3 days to less days.  Afterall, there are 1 day tournaments. I do agree that such tournaments should not include holiday time if the tournament requires early results.

I'm pretty sure introducing proposed fixed time limits would result with a huge raise of the percentage of games finished by time loss, and would significantly decrease the number of games with interesting endings... The reasons have been very well described by @ilmago.
In my first thought I wanted to write: "but if there is a group of players who want it, why not to try it, just for their fun, but with leaving all official cups and leagues unchanged"... However some moments later, I realized one thing: I bet these games would heavily introduce the rating system, promoting a slightly different type of correspondence chess players: not necesarily the strongest in chess, but necesarily spending a lot of time online, in chess.com.
So if anyone would at all want to try introducing such fixed time limit tempos, the games should be either unrated, or should build a totally separate rating system.

I've played on a few sites that use time controls like that and on balance I prefer them. The best variant I think is something like 30 days per 40 moves with the clocks only starting 24 hours after each move is made. This last point mitigates the time zone problem that ilmago talked about above.  This sort of time control just seems to me to be a more natural way to play correspondence chess. Somtimes your choice will be easy or obvious, other times you will need to put in a lot more work.  Having an arbitrary limit of three days for all moves just doesn't sit well with me. More than once I've spent over two weeks on a single move in a critical position that I wanted to be absolutely sure I got right.

However you won't completely eliminate the vacation issue as some vacation time will still be needed, but you can get by with less.  People have lives, people go on holidays, people experience personal crises. That's how life goes. With 30 days rather than 3 days on the clock, you always have the option of just letting the clock run for short breaks, so less vacation time is manageable. You can't do that with only three days on the clock.