Proposal: Reduce All FFA Standard Ratings by 700

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Avatar of Arseny_Vasily
MuppetRobin wrote:

10.05.2019

there was hardcore time, I couldn't even reach 1900

although we already used cooperation in its infancy https://www.chess.com/variants/custom/game/1152492/56/1 (-300 to all ratings)

Avatar of HSCCCB

"A flat change like this is fine if we are resetting what a certain elo "means", which seems to be what you are suggesting (bringing the ffa elo in line with 2pc)."

You got it.

"how well can 2pc & 4pc ratings be compared"

that's the limitation of this all. I personally think they are close enough there is value to this idea. It won't be perfect; I think just getting it generally correct is acceptable.

I agree with your comments of statistical analysis and inflation

"adjusting for TC + playerbase"

The playerbase reacting negatively could be a problem, yes. I mean it shouldn't be, but it could be. As for adjusting for different time controls, I am not sure; that is a valid issue. I was thinking just leave blitz, bullet, and hyper alone for right now, until they have a larger and less volatile player base. I don't see much harm in having the rapid ratings lower and keeping theirs the same. Alternatively, they could be raised or lowered by smaller amounts for right now.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Avatar of jujocu

Mirad, yo creo que donde está el problema es en el reconocimiento social, le digo a mi sobrino que tengo 2300 de ELO en ajedrez a 4 y me dice "Ostras tío, que pasada" y en realidad soy un matao JAJAJAJAJA. Creo que de alguna manera hay que ajustarlo a la realidad social.happy.png

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https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranking_FIDE Magnus Carlsen con 2853 es el ajedrecista que más ELO tiene, CLARAMENTE vivimos desajustados.happy.png

Avatar of Indipendenza

YES we could do that. But whatever you do, the inflation issue will still be there, and maybe 1-2 years later the ratings again will be too high.

The real problem behind is that new players arrive continuously, offer easy points to "old" players and disappear, and the overall system points tends to increase like that. The only way to address that is to reduce everybody's ratings proportionally every X days (for instance, every week minus 0.5%).

Also, I believe that many high-level ratings are easily inflated just because of farming (deliberate or involuntary). And in fact it's very easy to solve this huge problem, by taking into account the respective levels. My proposal has always been to severely discriminate rating changes for games where the level difference is too huge. Read about that here:

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/about-ratings

Some other proposals were also formulated. Among other, I strongly believe that the configuration of the board should definitely be taken into account.

As of today, only the average rating of the board is taken into account, and it's total nonsense. Because if you have a 2700 in front and 2200 as sides, it's twice easier to win than with a 2200 in front and 2200+2700 as sides.

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/some-weaknesses-of-the-current-ffa-rating-system

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/a-new-proposal-ffa-solo-ratings-points-system

Avatar of JkCheeseChess

the more important question is why are you still obsessed with him