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josephruhf

Emanuel and Edward Lasker“ Gothic Checker Chess

The board is 8x10 because the new pieces are stronger versions of orthodox pieces: Speed Master (fFcefFmfW[cel]fK[cl]sWimnAimnD), National Master (NmK[cl]K), Candidate Master (K[cl]K), FIDE Master (BmW[cl]K), International Master (RmF[cl]K), Grandmaster (Q[cl]K). The SM can use its checker moves to capture en passant and the FM, IM and GM can double displace on the next two squares in front of themselves and this is the only way masters may do multiple captures where the pieces are in different squares. Alternatively, they may use approach capture as in Fanorona, or even both modalities. En passant is also treated like an ordinary capture.


The Pawns and SMs start in the same squares so both can have an initial double step. In order to be fair, any orthodox piece may share a square with the Master which has the same orthodox moves. Line pieces may also pass through the first square in their lines occupied by the player’s other piece. But if two pieces are in the same square, they must be captured separately.

To balance the defensiveness of castling, any orthodox piece and the Master which has the same orthodox moves may move on the same turn.

Promotion is still earned at the 8th rank, but Pawns and SMs do not have to promote until the 10th and it does not cancel their right to reset the 50/75 move count by simply moving. Until all SMs have promoted or been taken, only they may promote to NM, FM, IM or GM. 

A game is won by physically taking the King, but a quarter point may be claimed for baring the orthodox pieces and is given by force for perpetual check or being the player making a two-move loop.

Gabkorook
  • can you castle?
josephruhf
Gabkorook wrote:
  • can you castle?

Yes, that’s why the two types of pieces with the same orthodox moves can move on the same turn.

Lucas1009991

This variant looks cool but this post have some problems

1: you said how the pieces move by using betza notation, but not everyone knows about betza notation, it would be better if you just described how the pieces move

2: why the name of the new pieces are FIDE titles? are you lacking that much on creativity? (By the way, this is a problem of the variant)

3: the diagram you used have a bad quality

josephruhf
Lucas1009991 wrote:

This variant looks cool but this post have some problems

1: you said how the pieces move by using betza notation, but not everyone knows about betza notation, it would be better if you just described how the pieces move

2: why the name of the new pieces are FIDE titles? are you lacking that much on creativity? (By the way, this is a problem of the variant)

3: the diagram you used have a bad quality

I have noticed deeper problems with the variant than these:

1: it adds pieces in a way that doesn’t actually solve a problem of Chess which I wanted to design it to solve (Pawns get blockaded and games end up drawn that way)

2: the Chessmasters by any other names would still refer to a rather obscure game (Gothic Checkers or Old German Draughts)

3: having a super-queen is an inelegant way to give a perfect “White” player enough to play for a win without risk (but at least it doesn’t lean on randomization)

josephruhf

Canalejas Long Checker Chess solves these problems by amending the new pieces to the Senator (orthogonal flying king + Chess King) and the Judge (flying king + Chess King), which may stand in the same square and move on the same turn as an orthodox piece. The Pawn can also move diagonally.
The board is in the normal 10x8 arrangement with the new pieces on the edge files, Senators above Judges. All pawns start on the players’ third ranks and have no double step or en passant.

I forgot to mention this in the original rules, but repetition draws don’t count if the players just shuffle the same piece(s) back and forth on consecutive moves.

Lucas1009991
josephruhf wrote:

Canalejas Long Checker Chess solves these problems by amending the new pieces to the Senator (orthogonal flying king + Chess King) and the Judge (flying king + Chess King), which may stand in the same square and move on the same turn as an orthodox piece. The Pawn can also move diagonally.
The board is in the normal 10x8 arrangement with the new pieces on the edge files, Senators above Judges. All pawns start on the players’ third ranks and have no double step or en passant.

I forgot to mention this in the original rules, but repetition draws don’t count if the players just shuffle the same piece(s) back and forth on consecutive moves.

Okay