Strong suggestions on what needs to be fixed

1.
when I close the game over window, I saw that blue was rightfully given +4 but the game over window needs to be consistent.

2. Teams ratings possibly back to the old rating system. The Glicko rating system is not consistent with its beta test glicko system. We might see fewer leaderboard games and more cheaters.

3. Games viewable and playable on mobile. I cannot view the leaderboard on a smartphone anymore.

4. Leaderboard viewable on all or most browsers. Chrome seems to work but edge doesn't. And edge used to work before February.

5. Chat and arrows viewable without having to refresh the page.

Any admins that see this: please let me know what can be fixed and when it will be fixed.

Thanks

-Luke

Thank you, Luke.

1. Yes, it happens sometimes. The rating change is correct, but it is displayed incorrectly sometimes. We noticed it during the version update, but decided to release it anyway. We will fix it shortly.

2. Please explain more. Preferably with some example.

3. Officially 4PC is now for desktops and laptops only. If it works smart phones or touch pads somehow, it is good, but there is no version for mobile devices. I believe we will create one in the future. It requires lots of things: For example, how to draw arrows without right click? Etc. However, I will create a support ticket asking to make the leaderboards visible on mobiles.

4. Yes, MS Edge doesn't switch from FFA to Teams leaderboard. It is a bug in a 3rd party component. It should be fixed shortly. Please use Chrome, FireFox or Opera in the meantime.

5. Yes, it is bug. And we are working to fix it right now. Will update 4PC once this bug is fixed. It is a high priority task.

> @gonggong0607 The new chatbot does not work properly.

Please provide more details. What exactly does not work properly?

Partners and I don't receive each other's messages during the match. But after the match we can all read the dialogues, including the private messages from the other team.

Yes, it is bug. See answer 5. above.

From the chats it seems like, that the colors of the 4-players are different on the opponents screens.

thanks luke for the feedback. there is an issue with chat and we are working on it. for the moment, you cannot rely on team chat being private. apologies for this inconvenience.

1) i think this happens when a player's new ffa game finishes before his last ffa game, which got the game-over window confused. it's actually a tricky thing. the solution will be that a player's rating change will be based on his rating at the start of the game (even if it changed before the game ended), and the game-over will show the player's rating at game start, and the gain/loss.

edit: solution is still being discussed. the alternative is to update a player's rating (change in his next game that finished before the first one(s)) despite him already having been eliminated. the effects are pretty minimal either way. it's has always been that a player's rating is updated in his new game when his old one finishes.

2) rating formula is exactly as on the test server. However we decided to have everyone start with a low deviation (80), because the old version unfortunatly did not save how many teams and ffa games a player has played. i'm not sure how the teams formula for the old version worked, but it seems to me that it was not good, inflating ratings a lot (so many 2500-3500 rated players does not seem realistic to me). on a side note, with glicko, we had to drop having teammates gain/lose the same amount of rating, as their deviation may differ, and a player's deviation should not have any effect on his partner rating gain/loss. team ratings are still weighed 2/3 to the higher rated partner.

1. Fixed now. Rating change should be displayed correctly.

5. Arrows work fine now too.

How about the number of spectators?

It seems inaccurate. It shows that I'm the only spectator. then suddenly messages just pops out. We were more than 3 there watching.

Or was this intended in this new version?

minions are taking over

no, it was not intented to behave differently than on our test server

@zugzwang_101, we will fix it. We focus on more important bugs first. So, we fixed Teams arrows and "+20 for a trophy king" bug. "Number of observers" is in the queue.

Lol yeah, minions are indeed taking over

I think the number of observers tallies both the spectators and the people that were in the game?

So if there's 1 spectator and the game ends, the 2 that are still playing become "observers" and that makes 3.

while the game is running, the spectator count does not include the players.

after the game is over, spectators are called observers, and the count includes the players that are still in the room (eliminated ffa players usually dont stick around)

and yes, the count is not relialiabe, as stated in the official bug thread

The new thing is that they added algebraic notation, but also i noticed my partner wouldn't chat with me, so i displayed it on the board with arrows. Still didn't work.

@ericshan, you didn't play any 4PC games since August 7th (when the new version was released). Do you use your 2nd account to play 4PC?