The Bug Thread

for FFA though???

big rip

Also, @spacebar, can you just make a forum post that gives us insight on the move to variants? 

"I hope Green won't lose every game anymore.."
I was referring to top level FFA yes. Having it differ from teams seems like a poor idea either way.

Yes we'll make one (hoping another admin will, otherwise I'll have to xD)

There are 2 further biggish changes planned. top level FFA shall be like solo (2nd-4th all lose but not so much). And there shall be no more Solo. eg the 3 0 0 -3 we find is not really that great of a format, it's teams till 1st out, 65% of the time green loses or blue, and vibes aren't so positive either cause of the bad loss when taking 4th.
So there shall be morhping as there is now, low rated stays 3 1 -1 -3, but it moves towards Solo, not 3 0 0 -3 as ratings go up.

Last biggish change is that all variant ratings will be lost, as they were mixed (same rating for different games), and in variants this will change, each variant will have it's own rating. (it's a flexible system where admins can create new ratings and use them for one or several variants or tournaments. for example, they could make a WOF rating.

Apart from that, variants is "4PC 2.0", see https://www.chess.com/variants-test. Lots of new features and options.

I'm going to do some advertising (but it's relevant ), here's a list of some of the changes:

https://www.chess.com/blog/ChessMasterGS/new-features-in-variants-test

https://www.chess.com/blog/ChessMasterGS/new-features-in-variants-test-part-2

Outdated a bit, but there's still a LOT of changes.

I don't want to harp on again about this as Ive had many a lengthy discussion with the 4pc admins and others regarding the matter but I simply cannot fathom why top level FFA (2700+) is going to mimic the solo rating system when solo itself was the least popular mode for good reason. I know I personally much prefer 3 0 0 -3 than 3 -1 -1 -1 and this really wasn't discussed with the community and put up to a vote of any kind.

I would like to add that before anyone refers to discussions within this forum on the topic this represents a small and bias sample of the player pool and should not be used as a reliable gauge of how well received these changes would be. I don't think I ever really saw these forums until a couple months ago and I would definitely class myself as an extremely active member of the 4pc community.

radon, I am curious, what don't you and others not like about solo? 

I do agree the community should know, if for no other reason but to build trust.

is it going to be 2650+

We'll move this topic to it's own thread and discuss it there.

see also https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/ffa-solo-simplify-the-game

 https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/sfa-solo-for-all

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/balance-3?page=2

Wow sweet thank you. will use/comment with your kind permission

Will elaborate in the thread when it is made but I just do not enjoy a lot of the aspects compared to FFA and I know lots of people feel similarly hence the ridiculously small solo player pool (obviously this is not the only reason for its small size but it is a big contributor).

I understand the omatamix setup change and think it is correct even though I don't like the idea of having to rebuild the theory for FFA.

Regarding the other two posts about solo I think this merits a much longer and lengthier discussion in the new thread, the linked items really aren't really relevant imo given the huge bias in one of them and the other just being a more formalised example of how merging the rating systems together. 

I really strong feel that you cannot make this step lightly and look forward to discussing in great depth (preferably over call even on stream) the issues. 

You can use them if you want to

quick request; 

can omatamix setup be changed so I can play it rated with custom promotion? 

They can be, they can also just be in the lobby not observing a game.

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/bug-in-4-player-chess-1

I got stuck when I tapped on a game that was teams but only two players

And when I get the link it is 

https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess

Hello, my user name is AdamBashaBasbousa, and my rating is 149?.

The problem is that when I make a new game and chose it to be rated and can't invite players.

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