4. Ng5 is one of the main lines against the 2 N's Defense. But anyone who has done even a little study of the opening will know not to play 5 ... Nxd5. Hoping your opponent falls for that is not the only reason to play 4 Ng5.
When I first played chess, I was hoping people fell for 5.Nxf7 with a fork. I was a 700 on chesskid then.
Funny how many players go for sideline or tricky openings and become disillusioned with it. Like it or not, it pays to gird up and spend the time and energy playing and studying a major, solid opening. But seems the hunt is on for the golden opening that will bring. with little effort, sought after victories.
I wouldn't say this is as much of a problem at 2100, but Ive been facing a large number of kings gambits with the f7 sacrifice lines, and a bunch of other stupid stuff like haxo gambit
All you have to do is play d5 on the first move and it’s pretty much impossible for the Fried liver.
As a 1900 FIDE player i do play fried liver quite a bit. The point is not to play Ng5 and "hope" that your opponent doesn't know what he's doing, that doesn't happen at my level. It's actually quite an interesting opening:
yes that is true but when i started i got like 30 games with this and i had a 100 PERCENT win rate
before i hit 1000
Bro, you just don't know theory... Fried Liver is actually really good.
Fried Liver is really good. Under 1100, that is.
i agree
As a 1900 FIDE player i do play fried liver quite a bit. The point is not to play Ng5 and "hope" that your opponent doesn't know what he's doing, that doesn't happen at my level. It's actually quite an interesting opening:
I would have hoped that a 1900 FIDE player would realize that the variation you show is not the Fried Liver. What you showed is Polerio's Defense. The Fried Liver is where Black plays 5...Nxd5 and White sacs with 6.Nxf7. *Only* then is it a Fried Liver Attack.
As a 1900 FIDE player i do play fried liver quite a bit. The point is not to play Ng5 and "hope" that your opponent doesn't know what he's doing, that doesn't happen at my level. It's actually quite an interesting opening:
I would have hoped that a 1900 FIDE player would realize that the variation you show is not the Fried Liver. What you showed is Polerio's Defense. The Fried Liver is where Black plays 5...Nxd5 and White sacs with 6.Nxf7. *Only* then is it a Fried Liver Attack.
I’ve seen GMs confuse the terminology.
There also is a delayed Fried Liver, 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 d5 5 exd5 Nxd5 6 d4 exd4 7 Nxf7 Kxf7 8 Qf3+ and if 8 ... Ke6 9 Qe4+
Stockfish iPad app gets it right. Only after 6.Nxf7 does it use the term Fegatello (fried liver) Attack.
people nowdays call ng5 the fried liver, so its fine
No.. it's not fine.
There also is a delayed Fried Liver, 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 d5 5 exd5 Nxd5 6 d4 exd4 7 Nxf7 Kxf7 8 Qf3+ and if 8 ... Ke6 9 Qe4+
No. That is the Lolli Attack.
As a 1900 FIDE player i do play fried liver quite a bit. The point is not to play Ng5 and "hope" that your opponent doesn't know what he's doing, that doesn't happen at my level. It's actually quite an interesting opening:
I would have hoped that a 1900 FIDE player would realize that the variation you show is not the Fried Liver. What you showed is Polerio's Defense. The Fried Liver is where Black plays 5...Nxd5 and White sacs with 6.Nxf7. *Only* then is it a Fried Liver Attack.
Funny how many players go for sideline or tricky openings and become disillusioned with it. Like it or not, it pays to gird up and spend the time and energy playing and studying a major, solid opening. But seems the hunt is on for the golden opening that will bring. with little effort, sought after victories.