Three times the same position but with fewer pieces in hand is a draw?

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bughousefan

Here is the link to the game: https://www.chess.com/live/game/3751737619

Is this a draw despite the fact the opponent has fewer pieces in hand during the repetition?

ilmago

From what is shown when viewing this game now, both sides even had exactly the same pieces in hand each of the three times the final position was repeated.

So I think this game is not an example that can be used to find out what happens if the same position arises three times on the board, but with different pieces in hand.

bughousefan

The first time the opponent had a pawn and a bishop more than in the end position.

ilmago
AHopelessWanderer wrote:

you can't see the pieces in hand after the game

Ah, you are right.

What is shown instead is the captured pieces, minus the pieces that happen to have been reinserted.

And this happens to be three times the same for these positions.

 

So I guess that as long as the system does not show the pieces in hand, but the other thing instead,

it will be best for the system to simply only look at the position when identifying threefold repetitions.

For the system to take pieces in hand into account, I guess that the system would first of all have to be able to track and display pieces in hand in a more reliable way.

ilmago

Yes, optilink, and I guess that for fixing this bug, a necessary first step would be for the system to reliably learn to identify and show pieces in hand.

jdcannon

 Honestly, I am not sure if we consider pieces in hand for draws.  As for showing pieces in the hand after game, that is in the works, but is a ways out.