TMC 2011 - Final Round

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blackfirestorm

Thunder Knights have loads of admins and they are ALL aware of the necessary challenges because I have always let them know.

I am all for giving teams a chance but when they take days to respond to my posting in the admin group I am not even sure I want to be let back in :(

Seahorses

 How bout if TK challenges COA within some new deadline you set then all is good, but if they don't issue a challenge then they forfeit all 3 final  round matches due to the irreglarities mentioned and out of fairness to the  3 teams still playing? 

blackfirestorm
Good luck getting them to do that. I am in their admin group and they ignore even me.
Seahorses

OK, TK challenged on 10th of July and COA accepted.  Here's the link.

http://www.chess.com/groups/team_match.html?id=74518

I'm assuming this late forming match will be accepted?  And when is the new lock by date?  Thanks.

Seahorses

Ok, just for the record, since yesterday, I'm trying to get proknight to commit to locking him team asap.  Yesterday, was day 5 since the match formed, so keeping in line with the window for the other rounds it's time to lock.  Hopefully, he'll reply.

blackfirestorm
I've made a comment in the group as well
Seahorses

For the record, Thunder Knights are prooving to be a challenge to work with.  ProKnight agreed to lock yesterday, then at 5pm California time he deleted that agreement and replaced it with a message saying he would lock when I lock.  I locked for several hours and haven't heard anything.  Since then, 1 player has joined their team.  I'm hoping he'll lock today to get this over with.

Seahorses

OK.  Teams are lock.  Match started on 17 July.

blackfirestorm
OMG wow you have more patience than i've got that would drive me insane
Seahorses

(patience, i suppose.  I am a special needs teacher, btw :)

blackfirestorm
Nice one very worth while job :)
DaveShack

Glad it seems to have worked out.  Things got a little busy and I haven't been on for a few days.

blackfirestorm
I understand i've been bit busy too
blackfirestorm

OK results as posted

Adults Only vs Thunder Knights - AO won

Coats of Arms vs Chess Mistresses - COA won

Adults Only vs Chess Mistresses - AO won

Coats of Arms vs Adults Only - not decided

Thunder Knights vs Chess Mistresses - not decided

Thunder Knights vs Coat of Arms - COA won

Seahorses

Thanks for posting results as they stand currently. 

If AO would be so sportspersonlike to recant their 1 point gained by a cheater in the match, COA would have enough points to win that match and from that the Championship.

DaveShack

If you're talking about this match, wouldn't COA lose more points than AO would?

Seahorses

Hi Dave,  In that semi final match you linked it is break-even if each match with cheater vs. cheater is scored 1-1, so AO wins it anyways, since they're over the points necessary to win. 

I'm, however, referring to the final round match that blackfirestorm referenced where AO has a cheater that has won the point that is the clinching point for the the championship for COA.  The match isn't over though, so it will probably be a non-issue, but I looked into it after reading blackfirestorm's post. 

DaveShack

Oh, I didn't even notice the one I looked at was round 3.

There is plenty of time to let it play out, and the current score isn't especially close anyway.

blackfirestorm

This issue has been raised in the World League too ...

If we all started messing about with the scores of matches afterf cheats have been banned then it would completely change the competition.

I will say in here what I said in the WL forum on this:

Its not any one teams fault that members have been banned for cheating so its unfair NOW to start messing with the results because members get banned all the time.

Seahorses
DaveShack wrote:

Oh, I didn't even notice the one I looked at was round 3.

There is plenty of time to let it play out, and the current score isn't especially close anyway.


 Yep it played out and banned users was a non-issue.  Is this tournament still undecided for second and third place?  I know that COA won enough points for first a couple of weeks ago.