Look, 2 years ago 3000 looked quite impossible...
Currently RIBA is 3102 and at least than 7 players are above 3000. (At least as some are inactive).
yeah, I still remember how hest was 1st with record 2000, and how I tried to catch up 2200 YalinTala. it's funny that a few years later this happened again when I tried to catch up rojitto with 3200
I don't think that with the new (essentially old) system, rating will continue to grow, it may even start to fall
What makes me feel frustrated sometimes? That's to see some idiots who are not inexperienced (a thousand games...) and who won't progress. At some critical moment, I put my Q in order to checkmate FOR SURE my neighbour on the next move as it's protected (lol) by my opp's bishop. And... he eats it. I finish 4th of course, and he is 2nd (in today's case, but it's usually 3rd, and almost never 1st in such cases).
He's 2146 in Rapid FFA, so yes, it's pure incompetence and that's why he is not 2300+.
I politely give the link to this very thread (in order to maybe help him to progress).
And he answers (like making me a lesson):
"u can not give away the queen
partial teaming is ok
but a queen is a queen".
So yeah, the guy even doesn't understand that it's counterproductive to eat the opp's queen in the 1st stage, doesn't understand that he is 2nd (and could've more likely be 3rd in fact) because he a) weakened me and b) prevented us both from SURE elimination of a side player which is the priority in the 1st stage FFA (https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/basic-ffa-aspects).
Yeah, but "a queen is a queen". 9 points are 9 points.
So he will stay 2100 until he understands.
Why am I frustrated? Certainly not because I finished 4th, I'll recover these 28 points today or tomorrow. That's not the problem. But because it's a time waste and because it's always disappointing to see stupidity. "A queen is a queen".
Currently the record rating I've seen for someone to attack in front from start and to finish (as in 95% of cases) 3rd, it's 2342.
https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=10471130
Let's see who will break this record.
(2 years ago, it was inimaginable to see it from a 2100+ for instance... The rating inflation also has this consequence: 2300 people playing like 1900 were 3 years ago).
Record broken!
A 2377 FFA Rapid betrays in the 1st stage FFA, eating a Q that was helping him and attacking a side. Just unbelievable.
https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=10884777
From now on, I'll avoid putting my Q at risk with players under this level. (That used to be quite high 1-2 years ago, but today is like 1900 3 years ago. Rating inflation).
wow 1st stage of people being traitors is so annoying, say this: 'YOU TRAITOR!'
By putting your queen there in the first place, you put your full trust in your opposite. Based on my limited experience, 100% trust is way too high no matter what their rating is.
Let's rediscuss this once you are not 1685 Rapid anymore but reach 2200/2300, in some months, Ok? I'm pretty sure you will reconsider.
(Of course I'm speaking here only about the first stage FFA).
I understand the point; you will see that the issue is that let's say 85-90% of top players play ONLY teams openings and if you don't, they consider that you deserve to be killed ASAP (standard thought... https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/standard-way-of-thought), some even try to kill you SIMPLY because you don't open h3 when red. (Yes, yes, I'm not joking AT ALL, you play your first move and you're already in a 3 vs. 1 configuration and don't know it).
AND all the classical teams moves include plenty of queen hanging.
That's why your approach simply doesn't work above 2600/2700 approximately. Not to play teams openings is not an option for many there (I work patiently to change this state of mind, but it's tricky...); not to be very aggressive and fast with all queens out within 3 moves is not an option there; not to have full trust in your opp is not an option there.
There are plenty of RY games in 2800+ where the queens dont come out for 10+ moves.
It has happened to me plenty of times to be betrayed from start, either because someone in front found my opening bad (certainly many are, no problem), or because they were incompetent idiots, whatever. But for the FIRST TIME after 5 years on 4p chess I was betrayed today by someone for political reasons (!!!). The Russian player attacked me from start because I have a Ukrainian flag added to my "normal" French flag. Contrary to the usual case, because the game was low level, he won afterwards, as one of the side players disconnected and the other side player threw to my opp. Who cares, that happens (even if it's rather seldom at 2200+). But I was quite shocked to read his violent and very offensive anti-Ukrainian remarks then in the chat, where he totally justified the current agression and attacked basically me, presuming I was Ukrainian (which is not the case, but who cares). I think he should be chat-banned and I reported, but I don't know if the admins will follow. A very unpleasant and toxic experience.
You really don't see the difference, or you just pretend being that naive?...
You give too much importance to the rating. And I explained already why mine in RAPID was so slow now (after having been, yes, 450 points higher just some months ago...). So IDC a lot. Look at my Blitz and Bullet ratings, you'll be satisfied maybe more.
My point was simply that there are still plenty of things that many 1900-2300 players do not understand really, and real 4p chess begins from 2400-2500 approx.
Anyway I gave some ideas in https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/basic-ffa-aspects, because many players under 2300 tend to ignore some basics.
So if "real" 4 Player chess begins at. rating much higher than you have why are you lecturing and belittling people after games? (especially games you lose.)
It would be like me going down to the basketball court, getting my ass kicked and then telling everyone they stink and trying to teach them how to be better.
Why are you disrespecting someone who clearly has more experience than you, and is trying to help you improve in the game?
https://www.chess.com/variants/old-standard/game/27610387/236/1
https://www.chess.com/variants/4-player-chess/game/11099159/112/1
https://www.chess.com/variants/old-standard/game/27468604/170/1
https://www.chess.com/variants/old-standard/game/27468537/57/1
Wow LosChessquire, thank you, appreciated.
I know that YouTube is right to some extent, I probably (by frustration and in a fit of pique mainly) expressed some ideas slightly too abruptly; but yes I was slightly disgusted that simply because I dropped by something like 400 pts after the recent reform for the a/m reasons, one could consider my opinion doesn't count. Whatever.
(YouTube, as you can see in one of the old games quoted above I was 2573 and that I was not totally lying and saying BS to you; and in fact some months ago I was even 2650, so yes I think I can judge well enough when real 4p chess begins; and in fact only about 150-200 players here understand what's it is about, and Martinaxo made a list some weeks ago and I was honoured enough to see my name there, even if I know that I still have a lot to do in order to improve and to join the 2800+ elite, one day).
a) I do not know what is "3 on 1 chess" you refer often to,
b) I've explained already well enough: after the reform it became very complicated to get a 2500+ game and quite often I wanted to play regardless, and had therefore to accept just any game (2200+, 2100+, even no limits at all...) and was of course punished because of that, either because I had a completely incompetent opp who doesn't know some basics and remained passive when the sides were attacking, or even attacked me himself, or because I blundered, lacking attention as I was bored and annoyed by the lack of intelligence in the game. I play 4p chess to see brilliant moves, not to gain rating, IDC (otherwise I would've farm like many do!).
c) "you would have won if it weren't for other players playing bad" : that's precisely the point: there is a huge difference between classical 2p chess and what we're playing here which is much closer to poker. In 4p chess, you can't win alone. Never. All of us rely on other players, especially in the 2nd stage (from the 3 stages of the game). You may well be 3000, if you have 2 sides who know what they are doing and an incompetent beginner (or an idiot which is worse) in front, you won't be able to win because they will eliminate you easily (sometimes with the help of your opp even). All of us to win need to manipulate other players, especially in the most complicated stage (the 2nd) where you have to rely on them, to help them, then to weaken them, then to save them, and to attack them 5 moves later, etc., it's all about the balance.
Indipendenza does not deserve this criticism from you YT4PC. He has established himself as one of the stronger players, rating regardless, whilst you have not. This is not meant to be an insult but Indi has said nothing in this forum post that isn't grounded in objective reasoning whilst you are coming from the other approach. Leave mocking Indipendenzas rating to us washed up pros 
After having played 4p chess A LOT, I see that in FFA (contrary to Solo), it's strictly counterproductive to betray the opposite in the 1st stage (with all 4 neighbours still alive). In almost all cases it means the 3rd place afterwards.
Just an example:
Isn't it ironic that the creator of 3 on 1 Chess, the worst mode of 4 PC imaginable is in this topic telling @Indipendenza not to be "playing professor after the games".
If @YouTube4PlayerChess actually read this post, he could've saved a ton of rating by not being a traitor attacking his opposite and making a silly game out of it.
@Indipendenza here are the "Official rules of 3 on 1 Chess" brought to you by the guy who needs lessons the most.
https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/3-on-1-chess-official-rules
I'm pretty sure 3 on 1 chess is meant to be heavy satire, I found it quite funny 
I'm sure it's satire, but he does attack and tries to mate his opposite without just cause in the 4 player stage. I'm sure all the other players see him as a traitor and go after him in the games.
When you mate your opposite, there's some sort of justification at least.
https://www.chess.com/variants/4-player-chess/game/28439052 and again my opp takes my queen
Look, 2 years ago 3000 looked quite impossible...
Currently RIBA is 3102 and at least than 7 players are above 3000. (At least as some are inactive).