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KairavJoshi

1) In this formula, find the Sum of the first 104 digits

(n+2)^2, where n represents the term number. Good luck :P

 

2) Show how 2+2 could equal 5 if scientists who were calculating data ignored something crucial in calculating data in science....

mattymath

The second one reminds me of a joke that someone told me once:

What is the difference between a psychotic, a neurotic, and a mathematician?

A psychotic believes that 2+2=5, and neurotic believes that 2+2=4 but it kills him, and a mathematician just changes the base.  :-)  Sorry.  Don't know if that was what you were looking for, but a little more humor nonetheless.

KairavJoshi

lol... actually the answer was:

If the scientist ignored significant figures and the 2's were actually 2.4's then 2.4 + 2.4 would = 5!

strangequark

There are two significant figures in 2.4

KairavJoshi

I know...

khpa21

By the way, the sum of the first n integers is .5(n)(n+1), not (n+2)^2, so the sum of the first 104 natural numbers is 5 460.

KairavJoshi

in, (n+2)^2, the sum of the first 104 terms is way more than 5460...

KairavJoshi

When n = 1, answer is 9 due to  1+2 squared.

When n = 2, answer is 16  due to 4 squared. Meaning the sum of the first two digits is 25....

khpa21

I think we're trying to calculate different values. What do you mean by "the first n digits"?

strangequark
khpa21 wrote:

By the way, the sum of the first n integers is .5(n)(n+1), not (n+2)^2, so the sum of the first 104 natural numbers is 5 460.


 This is correct, it was just unclear how KJ worded it, that's all.

ColdCoffee

Part 2 has already been sufficiently answered,

for part 1)

Sum{from n=1 to n=104} ((n+2)^2) = Sum{from n=1 to n=104} (n^2 + 4*n + 4)

Since this is a finite sum, we may split the sum up across the terms without any problems (really we are using the associative property to do this.) So, we have:

Sum{from n=1 to n=104} (4) + 4 * Sum{from n=1 to n=104} (n) + Sum{from n=1 to n=104} (n^2)

Where the second term follows by factoring the 4 out of the sum.

The first term is just 104*4=416

The second term can be understood as the area of a triangle:

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**************************** <----------------- Bottom row has n astrikes. To account for the fact that we include all of the stars on the hypotenuse, we use the formula:

4*(1/2)*104*105 = 21840 (Where the factor of 4 comes from our original sum- not the area of the rectangle)

The last term can be computed as follows by using a technique called Proof by Mathematical Induction:

CLAIM: For Q>0, Sum{from n=1 to n=Q} (n^2) = Q*(Q+1)*(2Q+1)/6

Proof:
Q=1 case: 1*2*3/6=1
Q=2 case: 2*3*5/6=5

So we suspect that it works for all natural numbers N, now we will assume it works for some arbitrary natural number K and show that this forces the formula to work for K+1.

Assume that Sum{from n=1 to n=K} (n^2) = K*(K+1)*(2K+1)/6.
Then Sum{from n=1 to n=K+1} (n^2) = 1 + 2^2 + 3^2 + ... + K^2 + (K+1)^2
We have already assumed that 1 + 2^2 + 3^2 + ... + K^2 = K*(K+1)*(2K+1)/6, so the sum immediately above this one equals:

K*(K+1)*(2K+1)/6 + (K+1)^2 = K*(K+1)*(2K+1)/6 + (6/6)*(K+1)^2 =
(K*(K+1)*(2K+1)+6*(K+1)^2)/6 = ((K+1)(K*(2K+1)+6*(K+1)))/6 =
... after foiling out the terms in second factor, (K*(2K+1)+6*(K+1)) and then refactoring, we get:

((K+1)(K+2)(2*(K+1)+1))/6 which is the form we wanted.

Since we have shown that this property is true for N=1, and that if the property is true for any arbitrary N implies that it must be true for N+1 (Hence, its truth for 1 implies the truth for 2 implies the truth for 3, etc...) So this property must be true for any natural number N.

So, letting N=104, we have that Sum{from n=1 to n=104} (n^2) = (104)*(104+1)*(2*(104+1)+1)/6 = 380380

So our original sum is:
Sum{from n=1 to n=104} ((n+2)^2) = 416+21840+380380 = 402636

strangequark

Yup, it's definitely mathematical induction. I didn't get the part about the asterisks and stars on a hypotenuse. Could you please clarify for my ignorance?

ColdCoffee

You're right, that was a lame analogy. I will either draw a picture and scan it to clairify what I mean or think of a better way of arguing that point.

ColdCoffee

Ok, I am a dork, this is a much clearer way of thinking about that n*(N+1)/2 identity. Consider the case K=4

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Notice that if we add up the number of percent signs, we get 1+2+3+4 = 10 This is the same as computing the area of the rectangle made up of both percent signs and @ symbols and then divide by 2 (since the area of the portion of the rectangle made up of % is equal to the area of the portion of the rectangle made up @ symbols). The area of this rectangle (regarding each symbol as having unit length) is just 4*5 = 20 so one half this is 10 which is the area of either the % triangle (the one we care about) or the @ triangle (the one we dont care about).

I hope this clairifies this... let me know if I can further clairify.

strangequark
ColdCoffee wrote:

Ok, I am a dork, this is a much clearer way of thinking about that n*(N+1)/2 identity. Consider the case K=4

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%%@@@
%%%@@
%%%%@

Notice that if we add up the number of percent signs, we get 1+2+3+4 = 10 This is the same as computing the area of the rectangle made up of both percent signs and @ symbols and then divide by 2 (since the area of the portion of the rectangle made up of % is equal to the area of the portion of the rectangle made up @ symbols). The area of this rectangle (regarding each symbol as having unit length) is just 4*5 = 20 so one half this is 10 which is the area of either the % triangle (the one we care about) or the @ triangle (the one we dont care about).

I hope this clairifies this... let me know if I can further clairify.


 Thanks, this helps a lot. Sorry about my deficiencies ;).

KairavJoshi

I'll calculate and see if the answer you got is correct or not!

Summum_Malum
GeniusKJ wrote:

1) In this formula, find the Sum of the first 104 digits

(n+2)^2, where n represents the term number. Good luck :P

 

2) Show how 2+2 could equal 5 if scientists who were calculating data ignored something crucial in calculating data in science....


In number 2) you could just allow for the division by zero.. then I think you would be able to get 2+2=5 ..

strangequark

Division by 0 always "works" ;)

KairavJoshi

lol :)

val08

ColdCoffee, do you know how to derive that sum of squares formula?