+3.7 -1.05 -1.05 -1.6 is more balanced. The difference between 2nd/3rd and 4th is also not that big, only 0.55 while 1st place gets (close to) 4 wins like it's supposed to be
Variants Poll: What rating system do you prefer?
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Nov 9, 2022
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#103
I think technically as is, we could list Solo instantly but it would use the same rating. Which I think would be a good idea anyway, to use the same rating.
My reasoning is, there will likely never be enough active players for a Solo leaderboard to exists, which will make it very unattractive, seems like it would hardly get played at all.
Nov 9, 2022
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#104
Radon wrote:
deflect your intellectual insecurities
wow, that was mean
Nov 9, 2022
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#105
Indipendenza wrote:
Anyway: I've read all, and most players (even those who DO NOT AGREE AT ALL WITH EACH OTHER) are right to some extent. And it is clear that we'll never be able to reach a "perfect system that suits all".
The only way to solve this difficulty is: "more liberty".
Let's simply allow the person who launches a game to choose the setting (like today one can choose to launch with this specific time setting, with this or that set-up, with additional rules like en-passant removed, with +40 pts for the mate, etc.). We can let 4-5 options like that (and by default could be again +3 +1 -1 -3, because that's what the beginners and LL players like).
The players will join or not according to their tastes and preferences and principles.
@JustinD7
Nov 9, 2022
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#106
Radon wrote:
JustinD7 wrote:
What about bringing back Solo / WTA like it used to be. Two options. Look how many variants are on the site or even leaderboards that are rarely used. So the argument of trying to trim down the site cannot be used against this.
What is going to happen to the next Solo championships. Will it be cancelled? How can we have a championships for a game mode that doesn't exist.
Solo / WTA used to be 4 -1.3 -1.3 -1.3 rather than the recent 3 -1 -1 -1 and i think the 4 -1.3 is better. Also the name Winner takes all is a better name in my opinion.
WTA should be brought back and must be an option on the 4pc site. FFA and WTA. Two different games like it was before the merge.
This is the only solution to this whole debate.
With this I think many of us agree, just go back to pre merge where solo and ffa were different modes and retain those modes of play.
The only problem with that was the existence of 2 separate sets of ratings. And as Solo was played much less, it was challenging to get a decent level Solo game, etc.
We could re-separate, why not, but in this case I believe the games should impact the same rating.
Nobody playing solo isn't a bad thing. It's proof of the free market showing that it sucks.
rupkayak wrote:
Nobody playing solo isn't a bad thing. It's proof of the free market showing that it sucks.
IMHO, it's proof that people will play whatever the default mode is and not bother with the rest.
JonasRath wrote:
rupkayak wrote:
Nobody playing solo isn't a bad thing. It's proof of the free market showing that it sucks.
IMHO, it's proof that people will play whatever the default mode is and not bother with the rest.
Then why are people playing less ever since FFA got deleted in favor of solo? They recognize that one is fun and the other is awful.
We do have other variables we need to account for here - namely, the server being terrible.
Nov 12, 2022
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#111
I predict that with the recent reform, we'll see an accelerated inflation of the ratings.
Simple to follow: today the average rating of the Top 20 is 2868.05 (FFA Rapid, of course).
Let's see in 2 or 3 months for instance...
Nov 12, 2022
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#112
Indipendenza wrote:
I predict that with the recent reform, we'll see an accelerated inflation of the ratings.
Simple to follow: today the average rating of the Top 20 is 2868.05 (FFA Rapid, of course).
Let's see in 2 or 3 months for instance...
Maybe not; you lose more for 4th now, but we'll see
What about bringing back Solo / WTA like it used to be. Two options. Look how many variants are on the site or even leaderboards that are rarely used. So the argument of trying to trim down the site cannot be used against this.
What is going to happen to the next Solo championships. Will it be cancelled? How can we have a championships for a game mode that doesn't exist.
Solo / WTA used to be 4 -1.3 -1.3 -1.3 rather than the recent 3 -1 -1 -1 and i think the 4 -1.3 is better. Also the name Winner takes all is a better name in my opinion.
WTA should be brought back and must be an option on the 4pc site. FFA and WTA. Two different games like it was before the merge.
This is the only solution to this whole debate.
With this I think many of us agree, just go back to pre merge where solo and ffa were different modes and retain those modes of play.