WCL 2023: Division 4A

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Rules: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/wcl-2023-rules

Team contacts: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/wcl-2023-team-contacts

All match results are preliminary and indicative (occasionally updated by hand). Consult https://chessteams.info/ for live results and rankings.

Two teams promote to Division 3.

Results may change due to ex-post corrections (see rules) until the cut-off dates on September, 30th (for relegation) and December, 31st (for the final ranking).

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Cross Table 
  Mex Sin Bol NDe Ven IoM Ist The Abe CuT total
Mexico City (MEX)   0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 5
Sinop (TUR) 1   1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 9
Bologna (ITA) 1 0   1 1 1 1 1 1 1 8
New Delhi (IND) 0 0 0   0 1 0 0 0 1 2
Venezia (ITA) 0 0 0 1   0 0 0 0 1 2
Isle of Man (GBR) 0 0 0 0 1   1 0 0 1 3
Istanbul (TUR) 0 0 0 0 1 0   0 0 0 1
Thessaloniki (GRE) 1 0 0 1 1 1 1   0 1 6
Aberdeen (GBR)  1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1   1 7
Cuq-Toulza (FRA) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0   0

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Pairings
Team A   Team B match ID players rawresult correctedresult matchpoints
Round 1 (announcement: 2022-10-19, start: 2022-11-02)
Mexico City vs Cuq-Toulza 1431055 5 9-1 9-1 1-0
Sinop vs Aberdeen 1430839 5 7½-2½ 7½-2½ 1-0
Bologna vs Thessaloniki 1430771 15 17-13 19-11 1-0
New Delhi vs Istanbul 1431723       0-0
Venezia vs Isle of Man 1431025       0-1
               
Round 2 (announcement: 2022-11-23, start: 2022-12-07)
Cuq-Toulza vs Isle of Man 1440905 6 0-12 0-12 0-1
Istanbul vs Venezia 1440623 -- -- -- 1-0
Thessaloniki vs New Delhi 1442497 -- -- -- 1-0
Aberdeen vs Bologna 1440861 13 8½-17½ 8½-17½ 0-1
Mexico City vs Sinop 1442101 6 5-7 4-8 0-1
               
Round 3 (announcement: 2022-12-21, start: 2023-01-04)
Sinop vs Cuq-Toulza 1435661 5 8-2 10-0 1-0
Bologna vs Mexico City 1449065 15 20-10 18-12 1-0
New Delhi vs Aberdeen 1450087 -- -- -- 0-1
Venezia vs Thessaloniki 1449033 -- -- -- 0-1
Isle of Man vs Istanbul 1449246 -- -- -- 1-0
               
Round 4 (announcement: 2023-01-18, start: 2023-02-01)
Cuq-Toulza vs Istanbul -- -- -- -- 0-0
Thessaloniki vs Isle of Man 1457805 6 9-3 9-3 1-0
Aberdeen vs Venezia 1457871 6 9½-2½ 9½-2½ 1-0
Mexico City vs New Delhi 1459271 9 12-6 12-6 1-0
Sinop vs Bologna 1457641 5 6-4 6-4 1-0
               
Round 5 (announcement: 2023-02-15, start: 2023-03-01)
Bologna vs Cuq-Toulza -> -- -- -- 1-0
New Delhi vs Sinop 1466731 6 1-11 1-11 0-1
Venezia vs Mexico City 1466821 -- -- -- 0-1
Isle of Man vs Aberdeen 1465811 8 2-14 2-14 0-1
Istanbul vs Thessaloniki 1466083 -- -- -- 0-1
               
Round 6 (announcement: 2023-03-22, start: 2023-04-05)
Cuq-Toulza vs Thessaloniki -- -- -- -- 0-1
Aberdeen vs Istanbul 1478195 -- -- -- 1-0
Mexico City vs Isle of Man 1478647 10 14-6 12-8 1-0
Sinop vs Venezia 1476493 -- -- -- 1-0
Bologna vs New Delhi 1476425 13 16½-9½ 16-10 FF* 1-0
               
Round 7 (announcement: 2023-04-19, start: 2023-05-03)
New Delhi vs Cuq-Toulza         1-0
Venezia vs Bologna 1488349 -- -- -- 0-1
Isle of Man vs Sinop 1486261 6 3-9 3-9 0-1
Istanbul vs Mexico City 1487793 -- -- -- 0-1
Thessaloniki vs Aberdeen 1486363 13 13-13 12-14 0-1
               
Round 8 (announcement: 2023-05-24, start: 2023-06-07)
Cuq-Toulza vs Aberdeen         0-1
Mexico City vs Thessaloniki 1498345 10 7-12 7-12 0-1
Sinop vs Istanbul 1490695 -- -- -- 1-0
Bologna vs Isle of Man -- -- -- -- 1-0
New Delhi vs Venezia 1499019 6 3-9 3-9 0-1
               
Round 9 (announcement: 2023-06-21, start: 2023-07-05)
Venezia vs Cuq-Toulza         1-0
Isle of Man vs New Delhi 1507185 8 7½-8½ 7½-8½ 0-1
Istanbul vs Bologna 1506977 -- -- -- 0-1
Thessaloniki vs Sinop 1452349 5 2½-7½ 2½-7½ 0-1
Aberdeen vs Mexico City 1508453 11 16-3 16-3 1-0
     

* 1476425: bord #3 of New Delhi is an irregular foreign flag player

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Details about the start of round 1 will be published in an announcement item tomorrow.

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Round 1 forfeit results:

  • New Delhi vs Istanbul 0-0
  • Venezia vs Isle of Man 0-1

Forfeited matches/challenges may be cancelled.

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Round 2 forfeit results:

  • Istanbul vs Venezia 1-0
  • Thessaloniki vs New Delhi 1-0

Forfeited matches/challenges may be cancelled.

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Aberdeen v Delhi challenge sent

https://www.chess.com/clubs/match_challenge/2541779

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Vitami72 wrote:

Claim for Section 5 of the ECL2023 and WCL2023 rules (https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/wcl-2023-rules):
Isle of Man has 2 players with foreign flag while they are only 4 with national flag. According to appendix C of the rules @Betamu13 should win 2 - 0 for the match WCL2023 R2 also ECL2023 R3: Cuq-Toulza vs. Isle of Man.

My understanding according to the rules a team can have 1 foreign player in for each cumulative block of four players , these my be incomplete blocks of 4. Therefore in this specific case Isle of Man have 6 players giving them an allowance of 2 foreign flag players, they have 3 IoM flagged and 1 UK flagged player all counted as the home country, and 2 foreign flags which is allowed in the rules. Can @rainpiper confirm this. 

  • The number of foreign flag players is limited to 1 in each cumulative (possibly incomplete) block of 4 players (i.e. max 1 player on boards 1-4, max 2 players on boards 1-8, max 3 players on boards 1-12 etc.)
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@Chambro1970: It's a maximum of 1 foreign-flag player on boards 1-4. Isle of Man has two foreign-flag players on boards 3 and 4. The player on board 4 is therefore irregular and his/her games are counted as lost.

Still, given the overall result of this match, this is irrelevant.

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Round 3 forfeit results:

  • New Delhi vs Aberdeen 0-1
  • Venezia vs Thessaloniki 0-1
  • Isle of Man vs Istanbul 1-0

Forfeited matches/challenges may be cancelled.

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@RainPiper & @ Chambro1970

just noticed this thread - I was not aware of this "foreign-flag player" rule, until now.

from above comments, it seems I need to make sure IOM games have only 1 "foreign-flag player" on boards 1-4 & another 1 "foreign-flag players" on boards 5-8.

as IOM usually have to field 5 players per game, 5th board player can be "foreign-flag player".

have I got this right & how as IOM team admin do I enforce/ensure this?

never removed a player from a game before, but take it that's what I have to do?

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@dfhunter:

Your interpretation is correct: in a five-player-team two foreign-flag-players are allowed: one on boards 1-4 and the second on board 5.

You can either remove the player yourself from your team. Or (preferably) exchange messages with the respective player and explain him/her the rules, so that s/he can take them into account the next time him/herself.

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@RainPiper - thanks for the reply, will apply that rule in future games thumbup

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ps - thinking about how to enforce this rule, players can join a game up to the start time/day.

to remove/ban players on last day is asking for problems, most players are only online to play & don't read rules etc..

 

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pps - I'm a Him by the way.

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Round 4 forfeit results:

  • Istanbul vs Cuq-Toulza 0-0

Forfeited matches/challenges may be cancelled.

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Bologna has sent its challenge to Team Cuq-Toulza for round 5:

https://www.chess.com/clubs/match_challenge/2569497


update 24/2: the challenge was not accepted and has now expired. Our opponent is not answering.  

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Round 5 forfeit results:

  • Bologna vs Cuq-Toulza 1-0
  • Venezia vs Mexico City 0-1
  • Istanbul vs Thessaloniki 0-1

Forfeited matches/challenges may be cancelled.

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😢

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Is there a way to see the league standings? 

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See first post in this thread: https://chessteams.info/

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Team Cuq-Toulza has been disabled. All remaining Cuq-Toulza matches are cancelled.