What do we do with a literal six day creation Exodus 20:11? - Chess Forums - Page 4

TheJamesOfAllJameses

Jun 13, 2019

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#61

Gen 1:1

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In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:2

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Gen 1:3

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And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Gen 1:4

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Gen 1:5

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Gen 1:6

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And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

Gen 1:7

And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

Gen 1:8

And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Gen 1:9

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And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry landappear: and it was so.

Gen 1:10

And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 1:11

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And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

Gen 1:12

And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed wasin itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 1:13

And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Gen 1:14

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And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Gen 1:15

And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

Gen 1:16

And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

Gen 1:17

And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

Gen 1:18

And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 1:19

And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Gen 1:20

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And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Gen 1:21

And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 1:22

And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

Gen 1:23

And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Gen 1:24

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And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

Gen 1:25

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 1:26

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And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Gen 1:27

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Gen 1:28

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Gen 1:29

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And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Gen 1:30

And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Gen 1:31

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

TheJamesOfAllJameses

Jun 13, 2019

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#62

S o it says after each day there was an evening and a morning. That kind of sounds like a 24 hour day.

opiejames

Jun 13, 2019

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#63

I think we've made our respective positions clear. I have no problem with you being a YEC. It's not a salvation issue and I would be happy to worship the creator with anyone who accepts Jesus regardless of their positions on the age of the earth or any other non-Salvation issue.

My biggest concern is that if you may find a young person that has a strong science teacher that makes him/her believe that the earth is old and/or evolution is true. Please remember to tell them that there are some Christians who do believe in an old earth. If he is accepting evolution, please direct him/her to the bios-logos camp (not mine, but still Christian). The most important thing is they accept Jesus and the cross. After that, they will follow the path Jesus sets for them. Can we all agree on that?

TheJamesOfAllJameses

Jun 13, 2019

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#64

[Gen 2:1-3 KJV] 1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

TheJamesOfAllJameses

Jun 13, 2019

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#65

I'm sure we can all agree on that. But the Bible does seem to say that after each day was an evening and a morning, which does sound like a 24 hour day. I don't really see where it definitely says that it was billions of years or one week.

jaredjm

Jun 13, 2019

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#66

v.6 is the best verse for us:

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Here God calls the period of a light and dark a Day. Then just a few words later is the 'day' we're arguing about.

virtuousabyss29

Jun 13, 2019

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#67

Hinduism actually has different animals in their scientifically agreed upon years ago.

I don't have a problem with the Bible though. It's just that if you want it to agree with current science, it helps to stretch a little.

jaredjm

Jun 13, 2019

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#68

virtuousabyss29 wrote:

Hinduism actually has different animals in their scientifically agreed upon years ago.

I don't have a problem with the Bible though. It's just that if you want it to agree with current science, it helps to stretch a little.

dude you can't 'stretch' the Bible. The Bible is the holy, inerrant, inspired Word of God.

virtuousabyss29

Jun 13, 2019

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#69

jaredjm wrote:

virtuousabyss29 wrote:

Hinduism actually has different animals in their scientifically agreed upon years ago.

I don't have a problem with the Bible though. It's just that if you want it to agree with current science, it helps to stretch a little.

dude you can't 'stretch' the Bible. The Bible is the holy, inerrant, inspired Word of God.

The reason there were 4 gospels is because the 4 writers would remember things differently.

Of course science changes. I'm just trying to get a decent position from you guys about doing missionary work for Christ.

Again, if this club is cool with me I am cool with it.

TheJamesOfAllJameses

Jun 13, 2019

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#70

virtuousabyss29 wrote:

Hinduism actually has different animals in their scientifically agreed upon years ago.

I don't have a problem with the Bible though. It's just that if you want it to agree with current science, it helps to stretch a little.

Let God and His word be true, and every man a liar. Stretch science to fit the Bible, don't stretch the Bible to fit science.

virtuousabyss29

Jun 13, 2019

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#71

JayHunterBrickwood wrote:

virtuousabyss29 wrote:

Hinduism actually has different animals in their scientifically agreed upon years ago.

I don't have a problem with the Bible though. It's just that if you want it to agree with current science, it helps to stretch a little.

Let God and His word be true, and every man a liar. Stretch science to fit the Bible, don't stretch the Bible to fit science.

I am not a fundamentalist. Hope that's OK with you guys.

TheJamesOfAllJameses

Jun 13, 2019

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#72

Yeah, we aren't non-Christianophobic or anything.

virtuousabyss29

Jun 13, 2019

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#73

Well, if you think that I have to be fundamentalist to be Christian I may have to leave.

TheJamesOfAllJameses

Jun 13, 2019

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#74

What do you mean by fundamentalist?

jaredjm

Jun 13, 2019

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#75

I wouldn't say that only fundamentalists are Christians/that you have to be fundamentalist to be Christian at all, but I do think the fundamentalist position is the best position to hold.

virtuousabyss29

Jun 13, 2019

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#76

I think the reason we have four gospels is because the authors would remember things differently. I don't think the Bible was recorded perfectly and there are certainly different translations. I don't think it was translated perfectly.

That doesn't mean we don't have a perfect product though. What we have now may be better than what it would have been without change!

jaredjm

Jun 13, 2019

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#77

So do you think there are errors in the Bible?

virtuousabyss29

Jun 13, 2019

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#78

thanks jaredjm; I'd like to stick around!

jaredjm

Jun 13, 2019

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#79

JayHunterBrickwood wrote:

What do you mean by fundamentalist?

look it up. It's what my dad is.

TheJamesOfAllJameses

Jun 13, 2019

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#80

Of course God had His hand on His word, and that is why I believe the KJV is His translation, as it says that "the grass withereth and the flower fadeth, but the word of the Lord shall last forever"