sorry but nobody cares about your lame merge of king of the jungle and mini forest
What would be the relative piece values in this variant?
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Apr 4, 2022
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#3
yeah also just use trans walls instead of ferzes if you wanna make it like mini forest
Apr 4, 2022
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#4
TheUltraTrap wrote:
yeah also just use trans walls instead of ferzes if you wanna make it like mini forest
King of the Jungle was very old, probably from 3 years ago now haha; which means that transparent walls may have not been available back then and the green pieces were used for aesthetic purposes. It's an old idea nowadays though.
I also feel like this is just a sized-up version of Mini Forest, but maybe some would think otherwise?
Apr 4, 2022
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#5
hes asking just to hear advice on what the points of the pieces should be and you guys are just getting mad at him for that
Apr 4, 2022
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#6
I'm the inventor of King of the Jungle, and I came up with the name and piece types of mini forest, although the placement I came up with is different from in the current mini forest. I came up with this before coming up with the first idea for mini forest. I proposed my draft for mini forest because this position is very complex and mini forest is easier.
Here's how I came up with color bound piece walls
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-i-discovered-color-bound-piece-walls
Also this is where I proposed something equivalent to this position, along with the first idea for mini forest
https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/camel-forest-ii-variant-suggestion
Apr 5, 2022
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#7
rohithbala wrote:
hes asking just to hear advice on what the points of the pieces should be and you guys are just getting mad at him for that
But you can't change the values of the pieces?..
acgusta2 wrote:
The variant has the starting position below
Stone Generals can promote on the 14th rank to any non royal piece that blue has in the above starting positions, and they can move 2 squares on their first move. Other than having a different starting position and the above mentioned rules, the game is the rules are the same as in standard chess.
I think the ferzes would be valueless as they can't move and can't be captured, but they likely impact the values of other pieces as they affect both the movement of the king and the grasshoppers. Grasshoppers must be at least as valuable as dababas as they can hop over the ferzes laterally, and camel riders must be at least as valuable as camels as they can move like camels. I suspect that the camel is slightly more valuable that the alibaba but both move in ways the other can't so I'm not sure.
The position is very different from standard chess, so I think simply using the values the pieces would have in a position similar to standard chess might not work.
cmonbrug just remove ferzes and replace them with no-squares
Apr 26, 2022
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#9
I've played this one. It's quite popular. The ferzes should be replaced by walls, as they can't move.
And promotion rank 14th needs to be changed. That is way too hard.
Apr 26, 2022
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#10
1-c41-0 wrote:
acgusta2 wrote:
The variant has the starting position below
Stone Generals can promote on the 14th rank to any non royal piece that blue has in the above starting positions, and they can move 2 squares on their first move. Other than having a different starting position and the above mentioned rules, the game is the rules are the same as in standard chess.
I think the ferzes would be valueless as they can't move and can't be captured, but they likely impact the values of other pieces as they affect both the movement of the king and the grasshoppers. Grasshoppers must be at least as valuable as dababas as they can hop over the ferzes laterally, and camel riders must be at least as valuable as camels as they can move like camels. I suspect that the camel is slightly more valuable that the alibaba but both move in ways the other can't so I'm not sure.
The position is very different from standard chess, so I think simply using the values the pieces would have in a position similar to standard chess might not work.
cmonbrug just remove ferzes and replace them with no-squares
There are no "no-squares." They are called transparent walls.
The variant has the starting position below
Stone Generals can promote on the 14th rank to any non royal piece that blue has in the above starting positions, and they can move 2 squares on their first move. Other than having a different starting position and the above mentioned rules, the game is the rules are the same as in standard chess.
I think the ferzes would be valueless as they can't move and can't be captured, but they likely impact the values of other pieces as they affect both the movement of the king and the grasshoppers. Grasshoppers must be at least as valuable as dababas as they can hop over the ferzes laterally, and camel riders must be at least as valuable as camels as they can move like camels. I suspect that the camel is slightly more valuable that the alibaba but both move in ways the other can't so I'm not sure.
The position is very different from standard chess, so I think simply using the values the pieces would have in a position similar to standard chess might not work.