why do people want admin and stuff so much

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Chr0mePl8edSt0vePipe
B1ZMARK wrote:

I don't really understand this. I get that you can promote and demote people and invite others... but besides that, there isn't really a function of admins that makes it better than a normal member. 

I suppose it's like climbing the corporate ladder, with more prestige the higher up you are, but I've never known any corporation that gave out positions like halloween candy.

People want their peers to respect them and acknowledge them for what they've done for the club. You wouldn't know because you obviously are already at a position in the chess.com social network where everyone knows you, respects you, thinks you're funny, etc. It's actually pretty simple isn't it and I think you actually do know that. But it feels good to say, "How could you possibly want admin so much?" while being in a position of respect already. I've found you to be one of the more genuine members of this club but this post is an exception. I can't really blame you though because I'm guilty of doing this too as is everyone else. On a very deep level, this is similar to chess players downplaying how much effort it takes to get to the level they're at. On the surface it looks humble(Just as your post because you seem so humble saying that you would never want an admin position) but all it really does is hurt others. You're very honest emotionally in everything else and avoid the maturity pitfalls that many teenagers(most people in this club) fall into and you are always sincere but I just wanted to point this out. 

TheSwissPhoenix
Chr0mePl8edSt0vePipe wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:

I don't really understand this. I get that you can promote and demote people and invite others... but besides that, there isn't really a function of admins that makes it better than a normal member. 

I suppose it's like climbing the corporate ladder, with more prestige the higher up you are, but I've never known any corporation that gave out positions like halloween candy.

People want their peers to respect them and acknowledge them for what they've done for the club. You wouldn't know because you obviously are already at a position in the chess.com social network where everyone knows you, respects you, thinks you're funny, etc. It's actually pretty simple isn't it and I think you actually do know that. But it feels good to say, "How could you possibly want admin so much?" while being in a position of respect already. I've found you to be one of the more genuine members of this club but this post is an exception. I can't really blame you though because I'm guilty of doing this too as is everyone else. On a very deep level, this is similar to chess players downplaying how much effort it takes to get to the level they're at. On the surface it looks humble(Just as your post because you seem so humble saying that you would never want an admin position) but all it really does is hurt others. You're very honest emotionally in everything else and avoid the maturity pitfalls that many teenagers(most people in this club) fall into and you are always sincere but I just wanted to point this out. 

tbh i just want it to be in admin club lol

Kowarenai

honestly that just sounds a bit like either jealousy or sucking up to your boss

sndeww
Chr0mePl8edSt0vePipe wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:

I don't really understand this. I get that you can promote and demote people and invite others... but besides that, there isn't really a function of admins that makes it better than a normal member. 

I suppose it's like climbing the corporate ladder, with more prestige the higher up you are, but I've never known any corporation that gave out positions like halloween candy.

People want their peers to respect them and acknowledge them for what they've done for the club. You wouldn't know because you obviously are already at a position in the chess.com social network where everyone knows you, respects you, thinks you're funny, etc.

It's actually pretty simple isn't it and I think you actually do know that. But it feels good to say, "How could you possibly want admin so much?" while being in a position of respect already.

I've found you to be one of the more genuine members of this club but this post is an exception. I can't really blame you though because I'm guilty of doing this too as is everyone else.

On a very deep level, this is similar to chess players downplaying how much effort it takes to get to the level they're at. On the surface it looks humble(Just as your post because you seem so humble saying that you would never want an admin position) but all it really does is hurt others.

You're very honest emotionally in everything else and avoid the maturity pitfalls that many teenagers(most people in this club) fall into and you are always sincere but I just wanted to point this out. 

Yes, I do understand that it comes out condescending on my part. I will clarify. I believe I deserve the admin position. I wanted the admin position because I just felt like helping out a lot and felt that viznik's idea of the club was promising. That's why I helped out and why I like being admin. However I don't really do that in other clubs. Probably because I'd rather be doing something else, to be honest. Maybe I would be more admin-centered if I played less. Don't know.

I do have some guesses to why people want admin. I think the power is less so of a factor, and more of the social status. Hey, I am admin in this club. Look at me. It is a big club. The power symbolizes your status, I suppose. 

But at some point I believe we should step back and ask ourselves why we want to achieve certain goals. Why do I want to be better at chess? Why is it worth it to be good in chess compared to other pursuits? Why do I want an admin position? Why is it worth to be admin compared to other goals?

I can answer the first two questions, at least. Maybe in a strange way, but I still can. I want to be better at chess because I simply enjoy being better than people, and I'm good at chess and better than most people. Eh. It's really not worth being better in chess compared to other goals, but most people do not behave logically 100% of the time either.

I suppose going off of my logic, one can conclude that you can apply the same logic to admin positions. And... well, I guess that's true. I can't really argue with that.

I don't think (not sure, really) the intention of my post was to incite anything. Just wanted to poke a little bit at the root of the reason. A lot of times I do something that seems reasonable until I ask myself why I'm doing it. Most of the time, I can't provide an answer, and it suddenly doesn't feel right. For example, trying to reason with my mom.

Chr0mePl8edSt0vePipe

Also, just to clear things up, when I say terms such as "honest emotionally" what I'm trying to say is the genuineness or authenticness of other's attitudes towards others and themselves. For example, I think people acting like they could be somewhere else doing something waaaaaaay better and cooler than playing the B&M practice tourney but only since people were BEGGING for them to play in the tourney they'll oblige to spend there precious time which is way more hurtful to this club as a whole than silverblade being immature on a very surface level by saying "child". I

n my eyes, people who do the things I just mentioned are way more immature because its on a much deeper level. By implying that they could be doing something waaaay better than spending time playing with the club members, they are trying to fill their emotional needs of being wanted(by making people ask them in DMs to play the tourney) and simultaneously putting others down(While person A is really excited to play the practice tourney, Person B is saying that there time is too precious to use on playing a practice which implies that Person A is not nearly as COOl or Important as themselves.)

Hopefully this makes sense. I'm saying this all because ever since grade school I've always been really bugged by the emotional immaturity of my peers. Emotionally immaturity and a lack of sincerity are the last things we need in this club and is what can tear us apart. Who cares about silverblade saying "Child" when others are putting everyone else down in their self-righteous channel of pride.

Chr0mePl8edSt0vePipe

Ok, there. I got it all out. Seriously though everyone... 

sndeww

Yes, it all makes sense. That's why those kinds of people aren't my friends irl. Call me someone with no friends if you must.

Kowarenai
Chr0mePl8edSt0vePipe wrote:

Also, just to clear things up, when I say terms such as "honest emotionally" what I'm trying to say is the genuineness or authenticness of other's attitudes towards others and themselves. For example, I think people acting like they could be somewhere else doing something waaaaaaay better and cooler than playing the B&M practice tourney but only since people were BEGGING for them to play in the tourney they'll oblige to spend there precious time which is way more hurtful to this club as a whole than silverblade being immature on a very surface level by saying "child". I

n my eyes, people who do the things I just mentioned are way more immature because its on a much deeper level. By implying that they could be doing something waaaay better than spending time playing with the club members, they are trying to fill their emotional needs of being wanted(by making people ask them in DMs to play the tourney) and simultaneously putting others down(While person A is really excited to play the practice tourney, Person B is saying that there time is too precious to use on playing a practice which implies that Person A is not nearly as COOl or Important as themselves.)

Hopefully this makes sense. I'm saying this all because ever since grade school I've always been really bugged by the emotional immaturity of my peers. Emotionally immaturity and a lack of sincerity are the last things we need in this club and is what can tear us apart. Who cares about silverblade saying "Child" when others are putting everyone else down in their self-righteous channel of pride.

your just describing me every weekend just waiting for the only fun thing i have

Chr0mePl8edSt0vePipe
B1ZMARK wrote:

Yes, it all makes sense. That's why those kinds of people aren't my friends irl. Call me someone with no friends if you must.

That's good to hear, I've always found you to be more genuine than others here and our generation in general. I've never really found anyone before that looks past the surface level of our generation's lack of sincerity and double mindedness. But then again, it's kind of hard to stand up to this irl so I wouldn't know what others might think.

sndeww

"I'm a hypocrite but I'll let you know beforehand".

FoxWithNekoEars

I like being admin in places where people know me where i have friends and so..
so in bizhub for example i like it even when i am not really active there.. hmm.. yes there is some ego in it too... but anyway in any other club i was never so active that i would think that i deserve some rank or something.. and when i dont know the people there well i dont even want it ...

TheSwissPhoenix
DubstepJunkie wrote:
Chr0mePl8edSt0vePipe wrote:

Also, just to clear things up, when I say terms such as "honest emotionally" what I'm trying to say is the genuineness or authenticness of other's attitudes towards others and themselves. For example, I think people acting like they could be somewhere else doing something waaaaaaay better and cooler than playing the B&M practice tourney but only since people were BEGGING for them to play in the tourney they'll oblige to spend there precious time which is way more hurtful to this club as a whole than silverblade being immature on a very surface level by saying "child". I

n my eyes, people who do the things I just mentioned are way more immature because its on a much deeper level. By implying that they could be doing something waaaay better than spending time playing with the club members, they are trying to fill their emotional needs of being wanted(by making people ask them in DMs to play the tourney) and simultaneously putting others down(While person A is really excited to play the practice tourney, Person B is saying that there time is too precious to use on playing a practice which implies that Person A is not nearly as COOl or Important as themselves.)

Hopefully this makes sense. I'm saying this all because ever since grade school I've always been really bugged by the emotional immaturity of my peers. Emotionally immaturity and a lack of sincerity are the last things we need in this club and is what can tear us apart. Who cares about silverblade saying "Child" when others are putting everyone else down in their self-righteous channel of pride.

This is way too deep for here(You're spittin facts tho). Need more game annotations and puzzles

Lol true tho

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Power is what everbody wants 

but they have to earn it