William Vs Chiefjab Analysis
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Kindly, let me know your thoughts. Thanks
Good game! Some things I recommend:
1) Imagine you are your opponent.
This is very hard to do, I still fail often. But try to put yourself in their shoes and say "What would I be planning?"
"What would they do if I played this move I'm considering?"
In this case, 9...Ne7 was a great move, except that it relinquished control of d4, allowing me to push my pawn there and gain more of the center.
2) Patience!
The best fruit comes after it's been grown and nurtured and cared for for a long time. Plucking a plum while it's still green is a good way to get a mouthful of hard, bitter stuff. Like playing 9...Ne7 before, say, 9...Be6. Getting pieces developed to spots where they support your goal before trying to maneuver is more likely to bear ripe fruit.
Thanks for the game, Chief, hope this helped you. 
ChiefJab wrote:
Kindly, let me know your thoughts. Thanks
Would be happy to hear yours as well
Thanks for the analysis William. Will try and add my thoughts next time.
On move 18 I was so focused on your knights fork that I just overlooked the right moves and played something bad.
ChiefJab wrote:
Thanks for the analysis William. Will try and add my thoughts next time.
No worries, it was my pleasure
ChiefJab wrote:
On move 18 I was so focused on your knights fork that I just overlooked the right moves and played something bad.
I was going to play Bc6 in any case, followed by a knight fork so you did what you could.
Yh, thanks for the game too.
DeirdreSkye wrote:
Here are some thoughts on the game.
9...Ne7 is innacurate and it must must be played after the retreat of Bc5 to b6 or a7 so that that Black can respond to d4 with Ng6.
9...Ng6 is also a mistake and Black should try to attack the centre with 9...d5.White retains an advantage but he is forced to play with isolated pawn and the position changes.
14...b6 is very weakening.
16...Re8 might be the biggest strategic mistake of the game. Black's last chance is to prevent 17.Nd4 with 16...Ne5 forcing the exchange of Nf3 because of the threat on Bc4. The resulting pawn structure after 17.Nxe5 dxe5 is favorable for white because of the weaknesses on q-side(especially c7) but there is nothing decisive and Black can hold the position with Ba6 and transferring the knight to c5(Nd7-Nc5).If Black manages to give his bishop for White's knight after an eventual Nb5 then the knight on c5 would be pretty much untouchable. That doesn't stop white from playing b4 and create new problems but it is obvious that the game has a long way to go.
After 18.Nd4 Black's position might not even be tenable anymore but good fighting spirit from Chief who exhausted all practical chances.
Good game . Both players played much better than their rating and it was decided not by blunders but by strategic mistakes ,something quite rare in this level.
I forgot about 13...d5! I noticed it during the game and thought it was his best chance.
DeirdreSkye wrote:
Here are some thoughts on the game.
9...Ne7 is innacurate and it must must be played after the retreat of Bc5 to b6 or a7 so that that Black can respond to d4 with Ng6.
9...Ng6 is also a mistake and Black should try to attack the centre with 9...d5.White retains an advantage but he is forced to play with isolated pawn and the position changes.
14...b6 is very weakening.
16...Re8 might be the biggest strategic mistake of the game. Black's last chance is to prevent 17.Nd4 with 16...Ne5 forcing the exchange of Nf3 because of the threat on Bc4. The resulting pawn structure after 17.Nxe5 dxe5 is favorable for white because of the weaknesses on q-side(especially c7) but there is nothing decisive and Black can hold the position with Ba6 and transferring the knight to c5(Nd7-Nc5).If Black manages to give his bishop for White's knight after an eventual Nb5 then the knight on c5 would be pretty much untouchable. That doesn't stop white from playing b4 and create new problems but it is obvious that the game has a long way to go.
After 18.Nd4 Black's position might not even be tenable anymore but good fighting spirit from Chief who exhausted all practical chances.
Good game . Both players played much better than their rating and it was decided not by blunders but by strategic mistakes ,something quite rare in this level.
Thanks for the details, it's really appreciated.
DeirdreSkye wrote:
Here are some thoughts on the game.
9...Ne7 is innacurate and it must must be played after the retreat of Bc5 to b6 or a7 so that that Black can respond to d4 with Ng6.
9...Ng6 is also a mistake and Black should try to attack the centre with 9...d5.White retains an advantage but he is forced to play with isolated pawn and the position changes.
14...b6 is very weakening.
16...Re8 might be the biggest strategic mistake of the game. Black's last chance is to prevent 17.Nd4 with 16...Ne5 forcing the exchange of Nf3 because of the threat on Bc4. The resulting pawn structure after 17.Nxe5 dxe5 is favorable for white because of the weaknesses on q-side(especially c7) but there is nothing decisive and Black can hold the position with Ba6 and transferring the knight to c5(Nd7-Nc5).If Black manages to give his bishop for White's knight after an eventual Nb5 then the knight on c5 would be pretty much untouchable. That doesn't stop white from playing b4 and create new problems but it is obvious that the game has a long way to go.
After 18.Nd4 Black's position might not even be tenable anymore but good fighting spirit from Chief who exhausted all practical chances.
Good game . Both players played much better than their rating and it was decided not by blunders but by strategic mistakes ,something quite rare in this level.
Thanks for your comments, really appreciated.
Oh my I play much worse than this. Well done. One thing I want to say is that the fork was a really neat tactical devise which put black in so much trouble. Great job on that! I would have never seen something like that!
cyboo wrote:
Oh my I play much worse than this. Well done. One thing I want to say is that the fork was a really neat tactical devise which put black in so much trouble. Great job on that! I would have never seen something like that!
Thanks!
The fork was a byproduct of the weak light squares though; if his pawn was still on b7 he wouldn't have to worry about it. Pawns can't move backwards!
Oct 5, 2018
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Nice game guys. And I also was impressed with the knight fork on c6. I didnt even see that. Your tactics training is paying of william.
