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Who is the best person to beat Magnus Carlsen?

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SeniorPatzer wrote:
agisdon wrote:

actually ian nepomniatchi is the best chance. He might not have a high rating but he has the best record compared to anyone else in the world against carlsen. He has won 3 games lost 0 games and drawn 4.

 

Wow!  I had no idea.   How many of those wins by Ian came before Magnus became World Champion?  I have newfound respect for Ian.  I respect all GMs, and especially GMs that are plus score against Magnus!

Nepo won 14-15 years ago, and then a game in January 2011, when Carlsen avoided repetition draw. So it's not some kind of recent record even if Nepo avoided losses since then, which is impressive enough.

CheckMated78

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JuergenWerner
Kasparov will beat Carlsen for one more run with the world title
agisdon

nah

JustMud

I'd say it would be mvl i think he has the best chance

 

GabrielBuenrostro

Magnus could beat Magnus, but then, wouldn't that also be a loss for Magnus?

silvertruck

MVL

https://www.chess.com/news/view/carlsen-falters-in-winning-position-loses-to-mvl-2769

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CaissasDelight

I can't think of anyone who's consistently strong enough to win a match against Carlsen, but if one is to judge recent wins against him and recent tournament victories then Vachier-Lagrave and Aronian probably have the best chances.

MLG_Ferrari_Fan001
slobodan007 wrote:

Giri,Nakamura,So.

So what? XD

krm27
Right now I like Levon. I root for him because his games are interesting, but regardless he has been a contender for a few years now, including much time rated no. 2, and it looks like (and he says) he has adjusted his playing for this year to address weaknesses like being over aggressive. So you've got a contender who has upped his game. He often plays at the level of Magnus IMO, but he does have lapses. If those moments are reduced, he has good chances, and his success this year indicated he is reducing such lapses. I also think he will put pressure on himself since he's older, not much time left to be at peak.
varelse1

MLV

Although, the way Carlsens game has been slipping last year or two, it could be most anybody in the top 15 or so.

macer75
varelse1 wrote:

MLV

Although, the way Carlsens game has been slipping last year or two, it could be most anybody in the top 15 or so.

Matthew Leonardo Vanderbilt?

varelse1
pfren wrote:
varelse1 έγραψε:

MLV

Although, the way Carlsens game has been slipping last year or two, it could be most anybody in the top 15 or so.

How true. The last couple of years, he slipped in a world title and a measly first place in seven SuperGM tournaments.

Precisely, Pfren.

And on top of that, he was only able to defend his title against Karjakin last year, by taking the match to rapid chess tie-breaks.

Then we add in his underwhelming performance this year in Norway, followed by his finishing second behind MVL in Saint Louis, and you can be sure the other top GM's are smelling blood about now.

gambit-man
varelse1 wrote:
pfren wrote:
varelse1 έγραψε:

MLV

Although, the way Carlsens game has been slipping last year or two, it could be most anybody in the top 15 or so.

How true. The last couple of years, he slipped in a world title and a measly first place in seven SuperGM tournaments.

Precisely, Pfren.

And on top of that, he was only able to defend his title against Karjakin last year, by taking the match to rapid chess tie-breaks.

Then we add in his underwhelming performance this year in Norway, followed by his finishing second behind MVL in Saint Louis, and you can be sure the other top GM's are smelling blood about now.

...and his blitz display at Leuven... 

camter

Sure, Carlsen is good. Best around. But, he had better not have a bad hair day.

Karyakin must have been a wakeup call, surely. 

SmyslovFan

Carlsen may be the person to dethrone Carlsen. 

He has again stated that he doesn't like the World Championship, and would like to see it ended. 

Chess had the very first true World Championship, and we have had a continuous champion since the 19th Century, barring a period after Alekhine died. Every match-play world champion except Botvinnik and Karpov had to dethrone the previous world champion in a match. And both of those proved their worth by winning several championship matches. 

Chess needs the world championship. I hope Magnus doesn't get his way on this. It may be inconvenient for him to defend the title, but it's an important and culturally rich title that deserves to be defended.

Eseles
pfren wrote:
varelse1 έγραψε:

Precisely, Pfren.

And on top of that, he was only able to defend his title against Karjakin last year, by taking the match to rapid chess tie-breaks.

Then we add in his underwhelming performance this year in Norway, followed by his finishing second behind MVL in Saint Louis, and you can be sure the other top GM's are smelling blood about now.

Oh, it's not blood, really. It's your socks, and I guess they will be at top form after this unique experience.

So far, Carlsen is scoring MUCH better in tournament play than any previous WC (probably excluding Karpov, who was playing several tournaments where few elite players were participating).

It's called FACTS, buddy, and you can't ignore them, regardless of your sympathy/antipathy towards Carlsen.

Not true, people ignore facts all the time and act in a completely biased manner