Playing "CHESS" as an under-400 ELO

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I'm not saying that over 1500 ELO players should be prosecuted or be put in jail, BUT we need to address some facts. An over 1500 ELO Game IS in fact a different variation of chess if you look closely. There is strategy and visualization, they are not just making barely legal moves. Definitely not playing the game the way It was meant to be played...and by normalizing It and allowing It we are disrespecting the CHESS community by calling It chess. Every day I see more of them, they are coming in waves and taking over the live chess queues, hiding in the shadows, they are planning to finish us as a guess-based community. The community that we put so much time and effort into building, we are now failing to protect It. And also protect the o-1500 against themselves.

Having an over 1500 ELO and playing chess IS a contradiction in itself, an in-congruence, a paradox, a system error. Disregarding logic in a logic-based game.

I'll start with the premise "chess is a beautiful guess-based game. But like any game It can take away from you more than you may realize, more than It can give, sometimes. And I think we can all agree with this quite: Life, just like chess, has a time limit.

In my most honest opinion the biggest struggle of an over 1500 ELO is actually not chess but the unsympathetic IRRESPONSIBLE higher ELO people that misdirect them into continuing chess or try to keep them in chess by projecting their own self lies into them, encouraging them to take a break, to leave playing or to watch from the sidelines.

To summon It, the most optimistic analogy i can come up with : being an o-1500 elo and playing chess is like Stephen Hawking joining an astrophysics meet. A blind guy walking on the sidewalks. James Bond in an undercover spy mission. A camel in the desert and a dog swimming.

Please lets stop pretending that the o-1500 species is enjoying/exteacting-value-from/contributing-to chess more than it could in other games/fields/aspects-of-life. And i am myself a 100% an animal supporter, but meat enthusiast and pray every day and believe in Jesus and wish the best to everyone.

That said, I think It is disingenuous and UNACCEPTABLE to lie and encourage them to take chess breaks or to quit chess. If you are doing it for their good then you are just lying to yourself and being irresponsible by projecting your own lies into others.

If you are an o-1500 and you are reading this, I support you in my heart and I acknowledge your struggle and remember that there are some fun chess variations where logic doesn't prevail (that much ) . But you can never escape logic completely. And you can't escape common sense and can't dodge the fact that you need logic to exist. Therefore you have to get good at It, as quick as possible. One way is by quitting chess, and playing dalies here, in Chess.com.

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AnswerZone wrote:
iPlayChess610 wrote:
Idrinkyourhealth3 wrote:
qjud wrote:
When i play against people under 400, They often fall for dumbest traps… most of them are new beginner or kids with 7-11 years old. (mostly)

how do you know their real age ?

Hey I am 10 and I am 1567 OTB.And here are a few people (not listing names, only titles and age.) from my state.

NM-11

FM-11

CM-12

CM-12

( I am sure we all have heard about Abimanyu Mishra)

Wow.... chess is crazy... CM at 12 is crazy (I mean, even having a title at 12 is crazy...)

I am only 2 months old and already 1807 otb

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umbravolt wrote:
AnswerZone wrote:
iPlayChess610 wrote:
Idrinkyourhealth3 wrote:
qjud wrote:
When i play against people under 400, They often fall for dumbest traps… most of them are new beginner or kids with 7-11 years old. (mostly)

how do you know their real age ?

Hey I am 10 and I am 1567 OTB.And here are a few people (not listing names, only titles and age.) from my state.

NM-11

FM-11

CM-12

CM-12

( I am sure we all have heard about Abimanyu Mishra)

Wow.... chess is crazy... CM at 12 is crazy (I mean, even having a title at 12 is crazy...)

I am only 2 months old and already 1807 otb

Wait... Your age is 2 months?

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I' m in the womb with a rating of 2100

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umbravolt wrote:
AnswerZone wrote:
iPlayChess610 wrote:
Idrinkyourhealth3 wrote:
qjud wrote:
When i play against people under 400, They often fall for dumbest traps… most of them are new beginner or kids with 7-11 years old. (mostly)

how do you know their real age ?

Hey I am 10 and I am 1567 OTB.And here are a few people (not listing names, only titles and age.) from my state.

NM-11

FM-11

CM-12

CM-12

( I am sure we all have heard about Abimanyu Mishra)

Wow.... chess is crazy... CM at 12 is crazy (I mean, even having a title at 12 is crazy...)

I am only 2 months old and already 1807 otb

Oh in that case this is for you

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Just Fried Liver them

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JourneyTo2500Rapid wrote:
Idrinkyourhealth3 wrote:
JourneyTo2500Rapid wrote:

Okay guys look this isn't gonna help anyone anymore idrinkyourhealth3 is never gonna listen to what you have to say anway so this is really just useless spam now

I am listening

You're not really, you're reading the comments and then throwing your perspective in their face

I am politely responding and reasoning my point of view with insightful arguments, giving them the opportunity to rectify themselves without too big of a hit to their egos

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I don't want to be responsible of any chess - terrorist attacks

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Idrinkyourhealth3 wrote:

I am politely responding and reasoning my point of view with insightful arguments, giving them the opportunity to rectify themselves without too big of a hit to their egos

You're well bent, you know that?

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iPlayChess610 wrote:
umbravolt wrote:
AnswerZone wrote:
iPlayChess610 wrote:
Idrinkyourhealth3 wrote:
qjud wrote:
When i play against people under 400, They often fall for dumbest traps… most of them are new beginner or kids with 7-11 years old. (mostly)

how do you know their real age ?

Hey I am 10 and I am 1567 OTB.And here are a few people (not listing names, only titles and age.) from my state.

NM-11

FM-11

CM-12

CM-12

( I am sure we all have heard about Abimanyu Mishra)

Wow.... chess is crazy... CM at 12 is crazy (I mean, even having a title at 12 is crazy...)

I am only 2 months old and already 1807 otb

Wait... Your age is 2 months?

He is DEFINETELY not 2 months with 1807 rating and able to type on a chess.com post.

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AnswerZone schreef:
iPlayChess610 wrote:
umbravolt wrote:
AnswerZone wrote:
iPlayChess610 wrote:
Idrinkyourhealth3 wrote:
qjud wrote:
When i play against people under 400, They often fall for dumbest traps… most of them are new beginner or kids with 7-11 years old. (mostly)

how do you know their real age ?

Hey I am 10 and I am 1567 OTB.And here are a few people (not listing names, only titles and age.) from my state.

NM-11

FM-11

CM-12

CM-12

( I am sure we all have heard about Abimanyu Mishra)

Wow.... chess is crazy... CM at 12 is crazy (I mean, even having a title at 12 is crazy...)

I am only 2 months old and already 1807 otb

Wait... Your age is 2 months?

He is DEFINETELY not 2 months with 1807 rating and able to type on a chess.com post.

Don't be a hater. Young people often play more creative chess, which can make up for extensive study, and he's probably just naturally gifted.

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Robyoman wrote:
AnswerZone schreef:
iPlayChess610 wrote:
umbravolt wrote:
AnswerZone wrote:
iPlayChess610 wrote:
Idrinkyourhealth3 wrote:
qjud wrote:
When i play against people under 400, They often fall for dumbest traps… most of them are new beginner or kids with 7-11 years old. (mostly)

how do you know their real age ?

Hey I am 10 and I am 1567 OTB.And here are a few people (not listing names, only titles and age.) from my state.

NM-11

FM-11

CM-12

CM-12

( I am sure we all have heard about Abimanyu Mishra)

Wow.... chess is crazy... CM at 12 is crazy (I mean, even having a title at 12 is crazy...)

I am only 2 months old and already 1807 otb

Wait... Your age is 2 months?

He is DEFINETELY not 2 months with 1807 rating and able to type on a chess.com post.

Don't be a hater. Young people often play more creative chess, which can make up for extensive study, and he's probably just naturally gifted.

2 months though?

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AnswerZone wrote:
Robyoman wrote:
AnswerZone schreef:
iPlayChess610 wrote:
umbravolt wrote:
AnswerZone wrote:
iPlayChess610 wrote:
Idrinkyourhealth3 wrote:
qjud wrote:
When i play against people under 400, They often fall for dumbest traps… most of them are new beginner or kids with 7-11 years old. (mostly)

how do you know their real age ?

Hey I am 10 and I am 1567 OTB.And here are a few people (not listing names, only titles and age.) from my state.

NM-11

FM-11

CM-12

CM-12

( I am sure we all have heard about Abimanyu Mishra)

Wow.... chess is crazy... CM at 12 is crazy (I mean, even having a title at 12 is crazy...)

I am only 2 months old and already 1807 otb

Wait... Your age is 2 months?

He is DEFINETELY not 2 months with 1807 rating and able to type on a chess.com post.

Don't be a hater. Young people often play more creative chess, which can make up for extensive study, and he's probably just naturally gifted.

2 months though?

I am not being a hater, but his account is well over 2 months old.... which is why I don't believe he is 2 months old... Sorry if I was mean or disrespected someone.

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Just_an_average_player136 wrote:
umbravolt wrote:
AnswerZone wrote:
iPlayChess610 wrote:
Idrinkyourhealth3 wrote:
qjud wrote:
When i play against people under 400, They often fall for dumbest traps… most of them are new beginner or kids with 7-11 years old. (mostly)

how do you know their real age ?

Hey I am 10 and I am 1567 OTB.And here are a few people (not listing names, only titles and age.) from my state.

NM-11

FM-11

CM-12

CM-12

( I am sure we all have heard about Abimanyu Mishra)

Wow.... chess is crazy... CM at 12 is crazy (I mean, even having a title at 12 is crazy...)

I am only 2 months old and already 1807 otb

Oh in that case this is for you

consider your rating

(not trying to be mean tho, I just felt like that, since u told me to go to ck.)

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AnswerZone schreef:

I am not being a hater, but his account is well over 2 months old.... which is why I don't believe he is 2 months old... Sorry if I was mean or disrespected someone.

No worries, I was just kidding lol. I don't know if it's even possible to comprehend the rules of chess at an age of 2 months.

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nicosnake14 wrote:
Quite frankly, the fact that barely any <400 ELO players know how to checkmate with a queen and a king without promoting a pawn is ridiculous, let alone a rook and king checkmate.

One time I was speaking with one of these u-400 and he told that his plan was to give as many checks as possible because eventually one of these checks will give mate, statistically

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Guys I’m going rated 200 on rapid for sum reason,
but I’m rated 1500 lol
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If I would be lower than 400 Elo I would not know what the scotch game and Rui Lopez is
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Under 400 elo. There is not a “real” way to play chess. You were under 400 before, weren’t you?

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At the end of the day it’s just a puzzle solving game. You should respect all players no matter their rating.