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Dear Chess.com Community, 

 

I am a tournament player who is improving rapidly, and recently, I have considered getting some sort of chess database software that can store my OTB games for future reference. However, since I have a Mac, many chess programs don't work on my computer, as they are only for Windows computers. Does anyone know of a chess database software for Mac that has the ability to store games, has a game database, and that can also run an engine?

 

Thanks, 

mocl125

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SCID vs MAC 

 

You'll have to create your own databases. I use the Windows version.

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Thanks @Martin_Stahl! Would I also have to create a reference database, or does it come with the download?

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No databases are included. 

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You can get a million game reference database at:

http://katar.weebly.com/blog/millbase-for-scid-update2

I use SCID (for Windows - can't vouch for Mac) on an almost daily based to look up games, play through games from books, analyze my games etc.

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@TheTexan, does SCID also allow you to annotate your games as well? Does it also save files as PGN? Thanks!

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SCID, and its variants, can use PGN files but it has its own DB format and everything works best with that. You can annotate games easily.

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Thanks! 

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I also have Mac and settled for HIARCS sometime back. I believe it is the best one for Mac.
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@Gyrkin why do you think that it is the best? Are there any features in particular that you like a lot?

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I find the interface very user friendly. It has all the features for database management. You can use multiple databases at one time. Plus, all those engine / position play features. I also use the live games feature through which I can see live tournaments through their url in HIARCS.
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For live tournaments, I mean the live games (not the commentary).
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I would make the investment and get Chessbase. Scid vs. Mac is a free alternative to chessbase, but the interface is simply much worse and harder to use. Also, with chessbase, you can buy the "big database" which includes over 7 million games (super useful for opening prep as it is by far the biggest database available on the market). Chessbase has a ton of features, but to sum it up it is gold-standard of chess-storage software.

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However, for most players SCID variants are very cost-effective and useful for basic game management and analysis. Chessbase is more powerful and can do some additional things but if all you need is a place to store your games, do analysis, and cross-reference other games, SCID works.

 

I have a DB I downloaded that has 3.5 million games an have the TWIC games for another half a million (might have some duplicates). I have some other databases I have grabbed in the past but don't use many. Still need to grab a pre-computer correspondence DB.

 

Plus, I think you can buy an equivalent DB to the Chessbase one if you need something with more games or better curated (both of the ones I have some junk and incorrect games).

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If you prefer a gentle interface, try ChessX or the commercial Hiarcs. I'm of course recommending to stick with ChessX :-) 

If you are addicted to a lot of features and do not really care for the interface, try one of the SCID family (Mac vs. SCID, SCID, ChessDB...).

If you have a very powerful Mac, you could try Chessbase with Wine - but Chessbase has a lot of bugs which come up under Wine especially annoying. I am simply not using Chessbase therefor anymore. :-(  (Good for ChessX and its users though).

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Thanks everyone for your feedback! Chessbase is very expensive and I think I will stick to one of the free alternatives. Would you guys recommend SCID or SCID vs. PC or Mac? Thanks! 

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@jens-chessx, can you tell me more about ChessX? I have never heard about it. 

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Since they are free, download and test to see if they meet your requirements. Often it is just a subjective answer, if each will do what you want.

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Take a look at http://chessx.sourceforge.net

It's free and features are added in regular intervals (about twice a year).

ChessX was used as a base for the commercial Hiarcs Explorer. So the behaviour is still somewhat similar even though the differences are increasing (hopefully).

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Thanks for the info @jens-chessx! I am considering getting it, it seems really interesting!