Chess set in Fisher vs Spassky 1992 rematch

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Giampo

Hello,

Do you know guys what was the set used in the Fisher vs Spasky rematch in 1992 ?

Thank you

Drawgood

I want to know too.

Crappov

It was the Dubrovnik set featured in these videos -->>

Original Dubrovnik 1950 chess set - Part 1

Original Dubrovnik 1950 Chess set - Part 2

 

 

 

final_wars

:)

Hi, I have seen those 2 videos before, you are correct.

Note however that the "real" Fischer set is the later version made in Zagreb. This is the video of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S3lKm9gw3I

This is the set that Fischer said was "stolen", it was actually sold along with other things by a storage company in California to recover storage fees after he could not return to the USA.

Just be careful when you read online everybody claims that Fischer used the Dubrovnik 1950 set (the original source) because they are trying to milk his name for money.

He actually had a later version, Zagreb (1968 to 1970, cannot find exact year online)

I have looked at a LOT of stuff online about this because I want to use the "real" Fischer set as the basis for my game that I made.

See my profile if you want to check the website.

Drawgood

You know how chessbazaar sells their replica of "Bobby Fischer's favorite" Dubrovnik set? I notice that it has six cutouts on the crown of the rooks. But elsewhere I've seen and read the claim that authentic "Dubrovnik" is supposed to have only five cut outs on the crown so that each tooth represents five areas of Croatia or areas around Dubrovnik. Does that mean that the Dubrovnik replicas from chessbazaar, and maybe elsewhere are imitations because the design is patented by someone? Or do they actually sell five pointed rooks at chessbazaar? Thanks!

Eyechess

Currently there are three companies selling Dubrovnik sets that are reproductions of the set that Fischer used and liked.

Noj, at www.noj.si sells the most accurate reproduction and the most expensive.  The set you are looking for from them is the Dubrovnik II if you want the Fischer most used one.  They do sell a reproduction of the original Dubrovnik 1950 set which was used in the 1992 rematch.  To my knowledge it is the only reproduction of that set with the other two being reproductions of the 1960's version that you see pictures of Fischer with.

The House of Staunton sells one that is a little over one third of the Noj set.  That set is not as accurate as the Noj version but still nice.

Chess Bazaar sells the least expensive version and also the one most different from the set Fischer used and liked.. Many on this forum have purchased this lesser expensive version and are happy with it.

final_wars

and somebody is sitting on Fischers actual set, or its been lost forever.

if someone is sitting on it do you think that they know?

JackieMatra

There are also relatively inexpensive plastic "Dubrovnik" chess sets currently available that bear an approximate similarity to the wooden "originals".

Plastic "Dubrovnik I" (1950s)

[URL=http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/JackieMatra/media/Dubrovnik%20I%20a_zpsktxb1prr.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q638/JackieMatra/Dubrovnik%20I%20a_zpsktxb1prr.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Plastic "Dubrovnik II" (1960s)

[URL=http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/JackieMatra/media/Dubrovnik%20II%20e_zpsezdenayf.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q638/JackieMatra/Dubrovnik%20II%20e_zpsezdenayf.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

final_wars

I think your pictures are very good, well done, they show the differences between the 1950 original and the later call it Zagreb version

I think the set in the 1992 rematch was based on the 1950 original, but I could be wrong.

Please can you provide a link to the website(s) for these sets, thank you.

m_liguori

http://www.bestchessmenever.com/blog/

 

Jonas has complied a large amount of information on the various Dubrovnik sets and has aquired quite a collection of them as well. 

JackieMatra
final_wars schreef:

I think your pictures are very good, well done, they show the differences between the 1950 original and the later call it Zagreb version

I think the set in the 1992 rematch was based on the 1950 original, but I could be wrong.

Please can you provide a link to the website(s) for these sets, thank you.

I do have both of these sets, but the photographs that I posted are not mine.

The chess set used in the 1992 Fischer-Spassky match is said to have been one of the chess sets that had actually been made for and was used at the 1950 Chess Olympiad in Dubrovnik, Yugoslavia, that belonged to an arbiter of the match, and was lent to be used in the match at Fischer's request.

The chess set that Bobby Fischer actually owned and is seen with in numerous photographs and videos from the early 1970s was a 1960s Dubrovnik II version set that he said that he purchased in Yugoslavia in 1970.

Plastic Dubrovnik I (1950s style) can be purchased here: http://www.chessgamesshop.com/

Plastic Dubrovnik II (1960s style) can be purchased here: http://www.drazic.co.rs/en/

The plastic Dubrovnik II set comes in only one size and is unweighted. The plastic Dubrovnik I set is available in two sizes, and the larger size comes in weighted and unweighted versions.

final_wars

thanks man

1. i know bestchessmenever, seen site, lots of videos (he does however try to flog 1950 as Fischers set)

2. i know drazic, run by a GM, for the Zagreb version (Fischer version)

3. I checked chessgamesshop, oops, been before.

But thank you man

All the best

ifekali
final_wars wrote:

thanks man

1. i know bestchessmenever, seen site, lots of videos (he does however try to flog 1950 as Fischers set)

What are you talking about? I believe I am quite clear on my blog:

The original Dubrovnik was made for 1950 Olympiad and was used again in 1992 Sveti Stefan Fischer-Spassky rematch:

http://www.bestchessmenever.com/blog/files/the-dubrovnik-chess-set.html

It was redesigned a few years later in the Fifties and Fischer bought one of these (redesigned) sets in about 1970 in Zagreb:

http://bestchessmenever.com/blog/files/the-fischer-set.html

-Izmet Fekali

final_wars

interesting that your post for number 2 is dated 28.05.2015 (recent)

I saw your website and YouTube videos long ago, BEFORE you acquired the Dubrovnik 2 set, that is what I am talking about.

You used to call Dubrovnik 1 the Fischer set, now you call Dubrovnik 2 the Fischer set.

Fischer haunts chess.

Fischer will haunt Final Wars.

Fischer Random was my starting point when I made my game (I also looked at or studied hundreds of other variants of the ancient game)

www.finalwars.com

p.s. the ancient game is the original source of all variants, it is not chess.

When you first look at my game you will think that everything has changed. After you play my game you will realise that nothing has changed. I did not want to change chess, I wanted to fix chess for the players.

FrankHelwig
final_wars wrote:

You used to call Dubrovnik 1 the Fischer set, now you call Dubrovnik 2 the Fischer set.

I've been reading his blog and his posts here for years and that is simply not true.

final_wars

I went through his YouTube list of videos, he has removed at least 2 that I remember, like the one that was about a 1950 set that was incomplete, only had about 7 pieces.

Then this, just imagine recording a conversation with Bobby, to specifically discuss a set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JegJU5rjnB0

Ja, I know what I saw, poor Bobby, no wonder he never trusted people.

final_wars

My favorite is Dubrovnik 2 (the Fischer set)

The man with the set above is very lucky indeed, a beautiful set.

I only wish that Fischers actual set will be recovered one day, somehow, and put on display in a museum or something.

ifekali
final_wars wrote:

I went through his YouTube list of videos, he has removed at least 2 that I remember, like the one that was about a 1950 set that was incomplete, only had about 7 pieces.

Then this, just imagine recording a conversation with Bobby, to specifically discuss a set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JegJU5rjnB0

Ja, I know what I saw, poor Bobby, no wonder he never trusted people.

This is not true, I never removed any videos. What you saw was probably a photo, still there in my Dubrovnik blog post. I never shot a video of an incomplete Dubrovnik.

I did update some of my posts with fresh information as I gathered it with my research.

It is a person peddling his wares that one should never trust.

-Izmet

final_wars

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You made a video of the ideal size of a chess set when compared to the board, right?

You know, 55mm squares, the King and Queen on two adjacent squares on a diagonal, if the bishop can slide between without touching either then the board squares are not too small.

Very nice trick by the way, I do it all the time now.

What happened to that video? 

ifekali
final_wars wrote:

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You made a video of the ideal size of a chess set when compared to the board, right?

You know, 55mm squares, the King and Queen on two adjacent squares on a diagonal, if the bishop can slide between without touching either then the board squares are not too small.

Very nice trick by the way, I do it all the time now.

What happened to that video? 

Nothing happened to that video, it is still there:

http://bestchessmenever.com/blog/files/board-size.html

I believe apologies are in order, would you agree?

-Izmet