Chess Software for Playing and Analysis.

wiscmike

Thx again, analyze my own games and also start an opening repertoire since I never had one. I use chess.com for tactics and lessons and the new puzzle rush on here sure makes you think fast. 

Keeping the plaque off of my brain and trying to stay warm in Wisconsin.  happy.png 

madratter7
wiscmike wrote:

I did some research and it was 11/15 when Fritz 15 came out and 11/17  when Fritz 16 came out, 2 years in between the last update.  Since I no longer buy green bananas I think I will opt for Fritz 16 for $55 delivered off of a chess vendor.

 

Looks like you are right. They may have switched to an every other year schedule like they do for CB15. That would actually make a great deal of sense.

I personally would get the Komodo version instead of Fritz, but either way, you'll do fine. You are really buying it for the GUI and other features, not the engine when buying Fritz.

Crappov
wiscmike wrote:

Looking for some help here.  What mainly is the difference between a program I have to pay for, looking at Fritz 16 on sale now for $55 or a totally free program as Stockfish?  Not looking for the strongest program.  Looking for ease of use

I haven't read every post in this thread so I apologize if this is redundant.

If you purchase Fritz 16, you'll get a GUI (The Fritz GUI), a chess engine (Fritz 16 and a few others), a database and an openings book.  You could then add Stockfish as an additional UCI engine, if you wish.

Opinions vary as to how easy it is to use the Fritz GUI.  It's a large program with a lot of features so there's definitely a learning curve if you're new to it.  I find it easy to use but I've been using various versions of Fritz for over 20 years.  We're not talking differential calculus here but it might be confusing at first.

wiscmike

Thank you all for your input, I also see Komodo had the F16 built into it. Went to the Komodo site and they have 9 for free and 10 for $17.99. Also, they have the latest 12.2 for $59.98. Might download the free version and play with it. 

madratter7

No harm in doing so. You'll need a GUI. You can try either Lucas Chess or Arena if you haven't picked up Fritz yet.

brother7

Another free GUI to consider is ChessX.

PoolPlayerToo

I'll just throw in my 2 cents on the topic.

I too am back in this game for the same reasons as you (I'll be 68 next month).  I have Fritz 16 (birthday present from my daughter) and enjoy it for both analysis and just playing against it.  I have nothing to compare it with but I find the GUI very user friendly, even for this computer illiterate old man.

There are two methods to play against Fritz that I have found.  One is "easy game" which is supposed to adjust to your playing level and I beat it as often as not, even at my lowly level of play.

The other method is to play a "rated game" where you can manually adjust Fritz's level and set what ever time control you want.  I usually set Fritz at 1800 Elo (whatever that really means for a computer) and play 60 minute games.  I've yet to beat it but I have drawn it once.  I find the games very challenging and, at my level, don't really expect to win, but I still have the hopes.

As others have said, you can add other engines if you choose but since the Fritz engine is already above 3000 Elo I've not felt the need.

Good luck in your quest.

forked_again

I can't find a way to play Fischer 960 on Lucas chess.  Is there a way?  Does Fritz or Chessbase have that option?  I would assume so.  Even my crappy android chess app has 960 games.  

brother7
forked_again wrote:

I can't find a way to play Fischer 960 on Lucas chess.  Is there a way?  Does Fritz or Chessbase have that option?  I would assume so.  Even my crappy android chess app has 960 games.  

A Google search reveals that Fritz 11 can play Chess960 so I assume newer versions can too.

Reference: https://en.chessbase.com/post/che-960

forked_again
CylonX wrote:

I should clarify that I do own Fritz 14 and I particularly like the sparring function which they do away with for 16. I was considering 16 now because of all the bulk packages being offered. My question was in the context of purchasing 16 as opposed to 14. And I have a relatively beefty computer so moving from 12 to 14 and being able to use 8 cores for the engine is kind of a huge deal

Just curious, for your level, is it such a huge deal?  My average laptop with short think times still finds way better moves than I could find.  Does it matter if the computer gives you a 2900 level analysis or a 3300 level analysis?

Does it matter if you get a move suggestion from Carlsen or from Svidler if they are both seeing stuff that you would never see anyway?

I always look at my computer analysis as a way to find the worst moves that I made, and see better possibilities, not necessarily the absolute best possibility with 80 level deep analysis.  The reason that move is the best usually escapes me anyway.

Crappov
CylonX wrote:

I should clarify that I do own Fritz 14 and I particularly like the sparring function which they do away with for 16. I was considering 16 now because of all the bulk packages being offered. My question was in the context of purchasing 16 as opposed to 14. And I have a relatively beefty computer so moving from 12 to 14 and being able to use 8 cores for the engine is kind of a huge deal

Chessbase did away with the "Sparring" and "Handicap and Fun" levels beginning with Fritz 15.  However, the improved "Friend Mode" still allows you to play weakened levels and the "sparring" function is effectively there, also, albeit in a different form.