I want know more about Nishapur chess

I see some image about  Nishapur chess,i was very intersting about that Geometric design,so I want know more about the story, dimensions and design ideas behind each piece.I would like to try to make a set of such pieces with a 3D printer, and I need to get the three-dimensional size of this piece

The Met cites the dimensions of the largest and smallest. You are unlikely to find better information, unless maybe there is more detail in one of the references or perhaps you can convince someone at the Met to measure them for you. That would likely require a serious donation. You should be able to interpolate and estimate from the photo to generate reasonable facsimiles. See the references for history, etc. https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/452204

Thank you.It seems that only guess the size of the nishapur by the pictures, is there any information to explain why the rook is two triangles? I'm interested for it

The book by Deborah Freeman Fahid in the Met's references looks like it might be the best source for explanations. If you do create a reproduction, please share here.

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The book by Deborah Freeman Fahid in the Met's references looks like it might be the best source for explanations. If you do create a reproduction, please share here.

After I recently taught myself how to model, I used 3D printing to create this chess pieces. The queen and king of this set of pieces are so similar that I make some different.What could be improved? FDM has a lot of lamination, and I think it needs to be processed later.

A holy grail of chess history guessed and printed. The original is one of my favourite sets and I always wondered if a reproduction in stone has been attempted. Your try in 3D is not bad at all! Thank you for sharing. Your rooks are bigger, your pawns are smaller and simpler, and you let go off the flatness on top of bishop and knight, right? In my opinion, you can't change the queen (or vizier/minister) design just for convenience. While king and queen were done sufficiently different in size and form by the artist, there is a touch of blindfold to the original design, and that should be preserved.

Thanks for posting!

Try enabling "ironing" in the slicer. Make sure you use a fine nozzle and use the finest layer height you can. Some filaments can be vapor smoothed.

https://all3dp.com/2/abs-acetone-smoothing-3d-print-vapor-smoothing/

The Rook or castle has two triangles to represent the turret

The Nishapur set is from Persia where the rook was a chariot. It predates the Europeanization of the rook becoming a castle. See the Met link above or https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rook_(chess)#History

Here's another Met link specifically about the rook. https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/449840

It mentions the V-shaped notch being typical: "The pieces in this group are highly abstracted, as exemplified by the rook, which has the typical V-shaped notch of such pieces in Islamic sets."

If you search the web for "v-shaped persian rook", you'll find some speculation about why and even some authoritative-sounding AI hallucinations.

When I look at the rook in the metmuseum , I can see a team of horses, pulling a chariot. It was easier to make a rook with a sharp v shape. I think that the met rook is ( or is closer) to the original rook, with a round bottom v. Later versions used the sharp v, because it was easier to make. Of course, you need a good imagination to see that the met rook looks like a chariot. Just give an ink blot test to a group of people , if you want to see what the human imagination can do with abstract patterns.

I'm not good at using inches, because my country mainly uses centimeters. and I noticed that the ratio of pawns is close to 1:1.2...I just learned how to use 3D print, so I can't do it well.

I think i should printting two queen for this chess pieces

thank you

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This is the rook I understand, and I wonder if there is a deviation in the understanding of the rook, because the comment says that the v-sharp is the turret of the rook and the castle,I don't know why the rook have turret?

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You are correct. Europeanization of the chess pieces changed names and their references. What the pieces refer to even varies between European countries. "Modern" interpretations usually associate the rook with a defensive tower. CavanPawn was assuming the modern interpretation rather than the historic meaning of the rook.