Spanish Chess Sets 2 and misteries

Dear Friends:

szociototo :

 Museu do Xadrez , Very beautiful indeed ...But I live in Oporto City, far from Figueiró dos Vinhos - Coimbra.

well, cgrau and  szociofoto - we have the spanish set that I call Indaseja. This set is a modern version of a set very similar and popular in Spain in the 30s-40s
In a photo, Alekhine is playing a tournament in Spain with this set.

Honestly, though like the modern Indajesa (our set) is beautiful, no doubt I preferred the version of the 30s where the bishops and queens and pawns were more slender, more elegant, and the Knights more finely carved without that face like camel! When a reproduction?

(look at pictures)

But this post is to show you a Spanish set that I will look for years similar to ours, but if you look, very different, either in the shape of King, Queen, Bishop and even Knight of our Spanish.
This pieces are very rare. My club with 75 years of life  - GRUPO DE XADREZ do PORTO  have this set  from 60's!
Years looking for this set, in my opinion questionable, much more beautiful than usual and ours Spanish set.

Another set that I search for years appears in the cover books  of m some the "escaques" collection
 These  marvellous chess pieces pieces exist? Will be Spanish? An extraordinary rarity that taking the cover of these books I never seen anywhere!
where thisset will be hidden ?

What is  what is youropinion?

Wow, Arlindo. I have no opinion about the availability of this set beyond what you've written. The pictures from the thirties and forties depict the set as turned and carved as finely as a Jaques. The knights impress me as first cousins to the Lardy knights, but with a head slightly tilted up (especially in the Pachman opening book) (I believe some of the early Lardys have this) and a larger mane-plume on the top of the head. The sets depicted in the Pachman books--the kings are incredibly slender. Both they and the bishops look anorexic to me. Surely the bishops eat better than that in the abbey!

I'm fascinated by the bishops on the demo board in the top picture.

Very nice set.! Thanks for all the pics.

Hello,

I feel a very special love for the indajesa design. 

It's the set my father played with me when I was a child and I keep it as a real treasure.

I took it to my home some time ago(I gave my father an european design as exchange).

I have varnished the box some months ago in order to get him to write a dedication on the cover, although I'm still managing how to ask for it without seeming too sob.

I think, by this feeling I have with the Inda, I'm not atracted too much for some of the sets you have shown. 

Specially those in which there is no head rounded bishop, because I don't like too much thin pieces.

Nevertheless, I have really felt in love with the set in the second photo. Same rook design as Indajesa, rounded bishop, beautiful knights and, apparently, very fine carving.

I would "kill" for one of them, or maybe a good reproduction.

The Indajesa's purpose was to bring the chess near to the people, so the sets were (and are) relatively inexpensive.

But for sure there was a time in which luxury chess sets would have been done with these designs. 

I would love to see a renaissance of wooden sets in Spain, but I think global market has put the last nail in that coffin and we will not see it.

For the moment, there is still a producer on the indajesa design, which I consider great and genuine.

Outside spain I have seen an attempt from Chessbazaar to copy the Indajesa, not bad at all in my opinion, although I have not handle the pieces. 

I would like to see other attempts, but I think there is no market for it. 

I mean, in fact, there is no truly reliable repro from the Seville set, although it would be easy to make.

Mora Viraf make one, very beautiful, but not very accurate. I think because they are cheating in some way.

They just take an indajesa set, put an european knight on it and carve a rook in the same way that they would carve a knight, but I think they are not trying to be accurate (Queen finial, real sizing, etc).

Thanks a lot for showing.

Great big thanks for this thread! I found this, because I first found the pages on Escardibul to identify my first Spanish set. I wonder why vintage Escardibul can be found,  but vintage Indajesa can hardly be found. I imagine it is because they were all used up in club play so that players finally took them home and keep them forever, while Escardibul is a bit more of a decorative set and was sold to tourists bringing it home but not using it that much. 

I found one incomplete vintage Indajesa as occasion (missing knight, bishop and 3 pawns). I would be thankful if somebody from Spain could tell me the history of the popularity and scarcity of the old Indajesa sets from the epoch.Thank you very much!

Hi @ungewichtet,

If you look for Indajesa on this forum, there are a lot of threads talking about the evolution of the spanish designs and their differences.

https://www.chess.com/forum/search?keyword=indajesa

What would be the value of a well worn vintage Indajesa set today?
I may have sourced an original and wish to know opinions on the fair market value.

I do not know about prices.. it depends on if you love it and the price feels right. Their rarity is an argument to get them if you find them and like them, because you won't see them very often..

So you seem to have found the same design I found (I posted some pics of my incomplete set) with the oval bishop's head. These threads by BurnAmos were really inspiring, yes, I caught the Spanish flu. I like the bishops, oval like here, as well as round or bulky. And I like the knights, be they the grinning skulls, the friendly rats or the tender kangaroos. And then there is the kiddo knight from the small plastic set and there are the knights with the famous escardibul plume.. and antiques I never saw but here

Yes the rarity, and personality boxes are checked for this one. Thank you so much for your input.