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MOKHTARI07

chess is different from many other activities where you will, almost
automatically, keep on getting better throughout your life. Chess must be learned at a young age
- even the smartest guy in the world has no chance of becoming a grandmaster if he learns the
game at say 25! Playing the violin and learning languages are similar activities - the brain needs
a special map for these kinds of activities, so it has to be learned at an early age - due to some
brain chemistry stuff, I guess. That explains why so many players get stuck at a certain level - their
map is done! Depressing, eh? But that's where Aagaard (and other heavyweights like Dvoretsky
and Yusupov) come to the rescue 

From intro of Jacob book 

NMRhino
Do you think I can get to national master by the time I’m 20? I’m only 14 right now
MOKHTARI07

Yup of course depends to your discipline

NMRhino
Ok, I’m already at 1700 now
rohithbala
HiramHolliday wrote:

Should that not be grandmiss?

Women have their own titles for titled roles such as the following:
GM / WGM

IM / WIM

CM / WCM

FM / WFM

Standard (Male) titles on the left, female titles on the right.

NMRhino
You can’t become a GM after learning at age 29. Maybe a WGM though.
jetoba
NMRhino wrote:
You can’t become a GM after learning at age 29. Maybe a WGM though.

There is always the direct title route by winning the world senior and having a high enough rating.

(from  https://www.fide.com/docs/regulations/FIDE%20Title%20Regulations%202022.pdf )

0.6 The Award of Titles
0.61 Titles may be awarded for specific results in specific Championship events, or are awarded
on achieving a rating as laid down in these regulations. Such titles are confirmed by the QC
Chairman on advice from the FIDE Office. They are then awarded by FIDE.
0.62 For a direct title to be awarded immediately an applicant has to have achieved at some time a
minimum rating as follows:
GM 2300 WGM 2100
IM 2200 WIM 2000
FM 2100 WFM 1900
CM 2000 WCM 1800 

 

https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/B01DirectTitles2017

 

B. Permanent Commissions / 01. International Title Regulations (Qualification Commission) / Table for Direct Titles effective from 1 July 2017 /
Table for Direct Titles effective from 1 July 2017
 

 Table 1.24b (subset selection)

EVENT
 
Women’s World
Winner – GM title;
Finalist - GM norm
Finalist - IM title
 
 
World >65; >50 Individual, World U20
Gold – GM title;
1st equal – GM norm
Silver & Bronze - IM title
 
 

JoshPrice
MOKHTARI07 wrote:

chess is different from many other activities where you will, almost
automatically, keep on getting better throughout your life. Chess must be learned at a young age
- even the smartest guy in the world has no chance of becoming a grandmaster if he learns the
game at say 25! Playing the violin and learning languages are similar activities - the brain needs
a special map for these kinds of activities, so it has to be learned at an early age - due to some
brain chemistry stuff, I guess. That explains why so many players get stuck at a certain level - their
map is done! Depressing, eh? But that's where Aagaard (and other heavyweights like Dvoretsky
and Yusupov) come to the rescue 

From intro of Jacob book 

 

 

 

 

I would kindly disagree with you on several points. I simply don't think it is impossible to get GM if you started at the age of 25! It is rare I definitely agree, and age does make a large difference when you want to be at the top level, but I think that almost anyone can get to a respectable level in chess even if they started, or picked it back up as late as 50+! I have several students that are making significant progress in a short period of time and they are above 50! This is a lower level I agree, but I believe they can get to 1500 maybe even more. It simply takes a motivated mind, a love for the game, and someone to help you along. grin.png

chessnoobietommy

haha this seems true. when i use to play chess when i was 10 yrs old. i was always winning or draw against players older and more experienced than i. but now i picked up chess again at the age of 38. i suk so bad :ohno

NMRhino
That’s just not true though.
DrSpudnik
playonlinesecretly1 wrote:

I learned chess age 29. And I will be a grandmaster.

No. Maybe a grandma.

malepenigel

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣come on man like a grandma

Duck

grandma master 

learningthemoves

The Kotov followup..."Think Like a Grandma" 

 

 

AlexiZalman

MypawnsareBotting is pretty much right. Simple fact is children don't have to earn a living whilst there are no inherent age limitations in chess, unlike say professional football etc.

The only real handicap children have are the education systems which for the most part are designed to produce generalised compliant factory workers and provide employment for those who are too mediocre to succeed in competitive environments outside the educational systems.

The other factor is paternal wealth - used to by pass the educational systems. Very few superGMs have come from poor backgrounds and I can think of only one World Champion who had dirt poor parents, Karpov.  Poor parents just can't afford to indulge their childrens' talents or interests and risk future poverty for their children.

The main thing that restricts GM status at older ages is the lack of earning potential. This is the main reason I would argue against separate adult women chess tournaments since these clearly disadvantage the more talented - by rating - majority male sub-GM players and have proven to be useless in generating more females GMs - or for that matter more adult female chess players.

Jimemy

I started at the age of 35. I guess im toasted. But I dont need to get an title. But I would like to be able to beat a title player online in Blitz or Rapid, that is my goal.

neverherebefore

You can't obtain any title unless you play O-T-B

cleveIand
neverherebefore wrote:

You can't obtain any title unless you play O-T-B

no shirt sherlock

Pauliez
I started gulping down chess at 2 years old , I’m 3 now and I’ve learned so much ,sorry I meant cheese🤣
DrSpudnik
Pauliez wrote:
I started gulping down chess at 2 years old , I’m 3 now and I’ve learned so much ,sorry I meant cheese🤣

I thought something smelled funny.