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Y’all are wrong people want to increase their elo and it boosts th cra* out of their elo. The results are amazing. It’s not advanced stuff they don’t need that yet at 500. they need to learn how to castle on a side with pawns and count and take with the right piece and retreat to a good square and basic strategy ect. I can beat these ppl 1000 times out of 1000 and y’all say I can’t teach them anything. It makes no sense. Once they get to about 850 then I don’t have the knowledge to boost them anymore and they probably need at least a 1500. U guys are objectively wrong about this so idc about ur opinions

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"Y'all are wrong [...]"

This is exactly what I mean. Most/All of the posts you have contributed on this thread has had some variation of this. Maybe try fixing this bit first?

"people want to increase their elo and it boosts th cra* out of their elo."

This may be true, but you could just as easily improve your tactics by, say, doing puzzles on an unnamed free site that offers puzzles.

"It’s not advanced stuff they don’t need that yet at 500."

The supposed coach would be ridden with problems themselves, which they might pass on to the 500 player, which will hinder their further development.

"they need to learn how to castle on a side with pawns and count and take with the right piece and retreat to a good square."

Half of these are positional things, which no person below at least 1500 can actually teach correctly, because they don't always know what a "good" square is.

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How about you comment on the one where I said I can beat these people 1000 times out of 1000 and you think I can’t teach them a single thing? It makes no sense bro

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It’s more efficient than going on YouTube. Puzzles are good too this is targeted

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FavelaSwag wrote:

How about you comment on the one where I said I can beat these people 1000 times out of 1000 and you think I can’t teach them a single thing? It makes no sense bro

I'm not saying you can't teach them a single thing, I'm saying that you can't really teach them too much positional stuff because you don't have a solid grasp on them yourself.

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If someone castles on a side with no pawns I’m absolutely qualified to point this out

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FavelaSwag wrote:

If someone castles on a side with no pawns I’m absolutely qualified to point this out

That's not what I am talking about.

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It’s very basic positional stuff like looking for a good retreat square and not freaking out. Developing minor pieces instead of pawns castling on a good side etc it’s obvious stuff to everyone at my level but they do t see it yet I point this stuff out

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FavelaSwag wrote:

It’s very basic positional stuff like looking for a good retreat square and not freaking out

If you are just teaching them not to castle on a side with no pawns or to not put pieces on en prise squares, I would say that not many people considers that "coaching".

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I don’t care what you consider coaching. It’s coaching. I’ve made my point and have plenty of data to back it up so I’ll go ahead and block u.

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I often give free advice on how to play the wayward queen but nobody takes them seriously

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I totally dont understand the “you have to be over 2000 to coach a 100”. It makes no sense at all it’s very strange I have to argue this. You can coach someone at any level. If ur 7 you can teach a five year old how the knight moves

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1cbb wrote:

I often give free advice on how to play the wayward queen but nobody takes them seriously

Yes denfending the wayward queen you don’t have to be a 2000 to teach this? I have to be a National master to teach how to defend scholars? You guys are ridiculous

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When I play wayward queen against <1800s, I always get completely winning positions within 15 moves. I usually win regardless of whether or not I play wayward queen, but it's faster with wayward queen

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FavelaSwag wrote:

I totally dont understand the “you have to be over 2000 to coach a 100”. It makes no sense at all it’s very strange I have to argue this. You can coach someone at any level. If ur 7 you can teach a five year old how the knight moves

It doesn't take a high elo to teach someone of lower elo. But players of higher elo are more experienced so they can easily identify the weaknesses in the lower rated player

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FavelaSwag wrote:

Yes denfending the wayward queen you don’t have to be a 2000 to teach this? I have to be a National master to teach how to defend scholars? You guys are ridiculous

First off, I don't understand how you are so confident as an 800 in rapid/blitz.
Teaching someone how to move a knight is NOT COACHING.

Coaching is PERSONALISED TRAINING.

That is why coaches cost money. They give their time to personally give you advice.

Teaching somebody how the knight moves is NOT PERSONALISED TRAINING.

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1cbb wrote:
FavelaSwag wrote:

I totally dont understand the “you have to be over 2000 to coach a 100”. It makes no sense at all it’s very strange I have to argue this. You can coach someone at any level. If ur 7 you can teach a five year old how the knight moves

It doesn't take a high elo to teach someone of lower elo. But players of higher elo are more experienced so they can easily identify the weaknesses in the lower rated player

OK, I don't know if I'm misreading your post, but are you actually trying to argue that someone with a lower elo could teach someone with a higher elo?

If so, then the natural follow-up question is: do you understand how the elo system works?

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iejdubifhiwuhiuh wrote:
1cbb wrote:
FavelaSwag wrote:

I totally dont understand the “you have to be over 2000 to coach a 100”. It makes no sense at all it’s very strange I have to argue this. You can coach someone at any level. If ur 7 you can teach a five year old how the knight moves

It doesn't take a high elo to teach someone of lower elo. But players of higher elo are more experienced so they can easily identify the weaknesses in the lower rated player

OK, I don't know if I'm misreading your post, but are you actually trying to argue that someone with a lower elo could teach someone with a higher elo?

If so, then the natural follow-up question is: do you understand how the elo system works?

No, I'm saying anyone can coach a lower rated player, but to have quality coaching, one needs to find a higher rated coach

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1cbb wrote:
iejdubifhiwuhiuh wrote:
1cbb wrote:
FavelaSwag wrote:

I totally dont understand the “you have to be over 2000 to coach a 100”. It makes no sense at all it’s very strange I have to argue this. You can coach someone at any level. If ur 7 you can teach a five year old how the knight moves

It doesn't take a high elo to teach someone of lower elo. But players of higher elo are more experienced so they can easily identify the weaknesses in the lower rated player

OK, I don't know if I'm misreading your post, but are you actually trying to argue that someone with a lower elo could teach someone with a higher elo?

If so, then the natural follow-up question is: do you understand how the elo system works?

No, I'm saying anyone can coach a lower rated player, but to have quality coaching, one needs to find a higher rated coach

ah, alright, I understand what you mean. Yes, people can coach tactics to lower rated players, but positional coaching have a sort of a cut-off where people who are TOO low rated don't understand enough about positional concepts to teach other people. But yes, I see what you mean

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Yes you can comfortably coach someone 600 points lower for sure. 600 points is a whole different level. Unless ur just terrible at explaining things