So the German Chess Federation just laid out their policy after FIDE's ruling. 
FIDE Transgender Policies
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Aug 18, 2023
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Aug 18, 2023
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#43
Ilampozhil25 wrote:
heres a potential logic, just putting it out there
one of the main reasons women are discouraged from playing chess (and why womens categories even exist) is because of s*xual harrassment
so maybe trans women might not have gone through that, so fide made this decision
and theres also the issue of people abusing this... maybe
not saying i agree with this logic, just saying it exists
Trans women have typically experienced quite a lot of harassment in life related to their gender, and are sexually assaulted more often than cis women.
And people abusing it? I've always wondered about the logic. "Hey, I can wear a dress and a wig, and win a women's competition where I wouldn't have won as a man! Yay me!" Why would anyone be proud of winning a competition where they didn't truly feel like they were a candidate? Just because some loophole allows me to compete in a local under-10 tennis competition doesn't mean I want to beat a bunch of kids and be recognized as the best 10yo tennis player in my town.
Nevermind the fact that it's generally the men that are trying to keep trans women out of women's sports - most women don't care or welcome the trans women to their ranks. How about FIDE poll the top hundred (or better yet all) female players and get their feedback?
Ilampozhil25 wrote:
heres a potential logic, just putting it out there
one of the main reasons women are discouraged from playing chess (and why womens categories even exist) is because of s*xual harrassment
so maybe trans women might not have gone through that, so fide made this decision
and theres also the issue of people abusing this... maybe
not saying i agree with this logic, just saying it exists
trans women are not real women
Botvinnik_the_6th wrote:
whisper2016 wrote:
kizzyisgay2 wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
kizzyisgay2 wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
ClearThoseFluffyCookies wrote:
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/international-chess-org-trans-women The FIDE says "Trans women have 'no right to compete' in the women's division. Unlike physical sports, there is no difference between the capabilities of someone born as either gender. These policies do not exist to better the game, nor in the name of fairness; these policies are made to alienate transgender people from participating in competitive chess.
imma give a serious answer
they are not real women, obviously. nobody's trying to ¨alienate¨ the wannabe community.
thats like me being on the red team in capture the flag, then suddenly identifying myself as the blue team so i can join them. not how it works lmao
‘Capture the flag’ is not the same as a person’s gender identity.
same idea
¨i dont want to be this so im going to try to be that because my feelings matter more¨
No, not the same idea. The only advantage that the blue team would have is that they have more players in their team, so are you saying that trans women shouldn’t be allowed to because there will be more women? Use real arguments : )
No, because trans women are still biologically male. You can't just let Larry Bird or Kobe into the WNBA, because that would make it completely unfair for biological women and make a mockery of fairness.
Biological women have no disadvantage in chess.
male and female minds work differently. they do
Aug 18, 2023
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I dont like the LGBTQ+ since its annoying, But chess isn't a physical sport soo ig it wont matter in the end.
Badchesserrr4486999 wrote:
I dont like the LGBTQ+ since its annoying, But chess isn't a physical sport soo ig it wont matter in the end.
feels like they keep trying to force their agenda down our throats
Aug 18, 2023
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#48
AngryPuffer написал:
Badchesserrr4486999 wrote:
I dont like the LGBTQ+ since its annoying, But chess isn't a physical sport soo ig it wont matter in the end.
feels like they keep trying to force their agenda down our throats
Imagine someone telling you that 2000 years everything was fine and now people are identifying themselves as animals...
Aug 18, 2023
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#50
ant wrote:
CatholicChessDad wrote:
Comments are locked on the news article of the same topic?
yep, this censorship has been happening more and more recently
This site is beclowning itself. It did not have to publish that news article, much less in such an uneven manner as it did. It seems as if the site cannot face viewpoints with which it does not agree. I don't understand why it couldn't stay neutral and just support chess.
CatholicChessDad wrote:
ant wrote:
CatholicChessDad wrote:
Comments are locked on the news article of the same topic?
yep, this censorship has been happening more and more recently
This site is beclowning itself. It did not have to publish that news article, much less in such an uneven manner as it did. It seems as if the site cannot face viewpoints with which it does not agree. I don't understand why it couldn't stay neutral and just support chess.
ive been muted multiple times for having different viewpoints that are not theirs.
dont forget this company is based in California
How about we take womans prizes out titled Tuesdays to make it equal?
YEAT wrote:
How about we take womans prizes out titled Tuesdays to make it equal?
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This proposal is ridiculous. It basically says that women can't be as good as men at chess. Men do occupy all the highest spots on the grading table, but that's to be expected statistically because of the much higher number of male players.
This proposal deepens the bad social environment that trans women already have to endure.
seasideman wrote:
This proposal is ridiculous. It basically says that women can't be as good as men at chess. Men do occupy all the highest spots on the grading table, but that's to be expected statistically because of the much higher number of male players.
This proposal deepens the bad social environment that trans women already have to endure.
men and women are very different mentally aswell
AngryPuffer wrote:
men and women are very different mentally aswell
There are small differences, but not sufficient to explain the difference in Elo. For that, you need statistical analysis and the result is overwhelming: roughly 8X as many men playing chess gives the Elo difference.
Aug 18, 2023
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#57
seasideman wrote:
This proposal is ridiculous. It basically says that women can't be as good as men at chess. Men do occupy all the highest spots on the grading table, but that's to be expected statistically because of the much higher number of male players.
This proposal deepens the bad social environment that trans women already have to endure.
The #1 woman in the world with an active classic rating right now is ranked #347 overall. Please offer some proof that the 346 male players ahead of her are statistically anomalous. Are there 346 times as many male chess players compared to female chess players?
CatholicChessDad wrote:
The #1 woman in the world with an active classic rating right now is ranked #347 overall. Please offer some proof that the 346 male players ahead of her are statistically anomalous. Are there 346 times as many male chess players compared to female chess players?
That's not how the stats work. Consider a 100-sized pool consisting of 90*A, and 10*B. Allocate a random number to each member from 1 to 100. What is the probability that the top 3 are all A?
Now multiply this result into a vastly larger sized pool.
we have more work ethic than women
heres a potential logic, just putting it out there
one of the main reasons women are discouraged from playing chess (and why womens categories even exist) is because of s*xual harrassment
so maybe trans women might not have gone through that, so fide made this decision
and theres also the issue of people abusing this... maybe
not saying i agree with this logic, just saying it exists