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BSkagen

 
I fail to get an advantage in games after this, even though I am several tempos up. How can I exploit this position?

notmtwain

I don't think there is any easy win but white has gained a time advantage. Please provide an example of a game where you failed to get an advantage in this line.

Alternatively, you can consult a database to see hundreds of examples of how this position has been continued by many masters and senior masters (though no grandmasters games were included in the database I consulted, probably for the reason that no grandmaster would concede an advantage so easily.)

I was looking through your archive and see many games you resigned with less than 10 moves played. What is the point?

BSkagen
notmtwain wrote:

I don't think there is any easy win but white has gained a time advantage. Please provide an example of a game where you failed to get an advantage in this line.

Alternatively, you can consult a database to see hundreds of examples of how this position has been continued by many masters and senior masters (though no grandmasters games were included in the database I consulted, probably for the reason that no grandmaster would concede an advantage so easily.)

I was looking through your archive and see many games you resigned with less than 10 moves played. What is the point?

When I make bad moves early I just lose hope.

chasm1995

I usually do this:



Dragon0117

You have about three good options on your first post...the horse is developed his queen is in horrible position against a wall...50% loss of movement on board.

Option one is a forced queen swap Qa4 checks king any block hangs the queen, opponent swaps and youre slightly better developed after horse takes.  (P.S. horse will most likely be threatened and chased so not that great allowing enemy bishop to develop etc.)

Option 2: Ignore the queen and develop your queens pawn d4 developing queen and bishop while pushing for d5 to get a ranked pawn.  (P.S. I like this best hyper aggressive and can potentially allow pawn to become a danger for king or and center pawns while opening the gate for your queen and bishop etc)

Option 3 Ignore queen continue to develop another opening on king side.

notmtwain
Dragon0117 wrote:

You have about three good options on your first post...the horse is developed his queen is in horrible position against a wall...50% loss of movement on board.

Option one is a forced queen swap Qa4 checks king any block hangs the queen, opponent swaps and youre slightly better developed after horse takes.  (P.S. horse will most likely be threatened and chased so not that great allowing enemy bishop to develop etc.)

Option 2: Ignore the queen and develop your queens pawn d4 developing queen and bishop while pushing for d5 to get a ranked pawn.  (P.S. I like this best hyper aggressive and can potentially allow pawn to become a danger for king or and center pawns while opening the gate for your queen and bishop etc)

Option 3 Ignore queen continue to develop another opening on king side.

Congrats on making your first forum post.

Did you notice that the last post before yours was made more than six years ago?

Or that the original poster hasn't logged in since 2015?

Deranged

Yeah OP hasn't logged in since March 12th 2015...

Good to see you're still super active though, notmtwain.

Dragon0117

The response was directed towards anyone who googled c4 vs d5 more than it was directed to the original poster...future searches it may help.  Concerned with context more than the original poster.

Kuyadige2

Yeah, against c4 d5 you can just play things like a Scandinavian, but one where you're slightly better because you have a central pawn majority, and your d-pawn isn't, in effect, isolated, as happens in many Scandis, where the Nc3 blocks the c-pawn, and the e-pawn is exchanged, so pressure along Black's semi-open d-file can become uncomfortable.  That matters less here, since your e-pawn can support your d-pawn, and you can choose to expand in the center pretty much any time you like.

chyss

White should be better here. Just take, play Nc3, and focus on central control. 

Laskersnephew

"When I make bad moves early I just lose hope."

There's your real problem! Chess is a fight. The better the player, the harder they fight--even in bad positions. Everyone makes bad moves, so if you give up after you make a bad move, then you're just waiting to give up.

PS: 2.cxd5! You're trading his center pawn for your flank pawn-a small plus for you.  Follow up by developing your pieces and you have a small advantage

darkunorthodox88

I always liked the idea, but unfortunately, it doesnt quite play out like a scandinavian. In the Scandi, white has to make a choice on whether to play c4 somewhat weakening the grip on d4, or nc3 blocking the c-pawn, here, white has to make no such concession.

if white really is adverse to novel territory then 2.d4 transposing to queen's gambit or 2. nf3 to a Reti is fine, but cxd4 qxd4 nc3 and d4, hoping for e4 should give white a good advantage.