1.c4 knf6 2.knc3 e6 3.d4 is not a thing?

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EnigmaKitty
I was looking at one of my games and couldn't find this opening anywhere nor how to exploit it since it is apparently an inaccuracy then. Maybe I just need to learn how to use engines and databases better but if anyone could help clarify it would be awesome.
webmeister

It's a Queen Pawn opening but not enough moves to be a "named" opening.

Blacks third move might be:

3. ... d5 is a Queen's Gambit Declined

3. ... Bb4 is the Nimzo-Indian Defense

3. ... c5 is a type of Benoni but could transpose into a number of things.

Those are the most common moves.

If you're actively playing online chess here you don't want to be using an engine during the game. That is against the rules.

You are allowed to use the database (explorer) but don't become too dependent on it. Use it to try to understand the ideas behind the moves.

Hope this helps.

macer75
 
Do you want to exploit it as black or white?
EnigmaKitty

I didn't say I used any tools during the games I said I was looking at one of my games and... 'sigh' nevermind. Thanks a lot though I love you guys!

DonaldoTrump

Wouldnt it be:

 

1. QBP4 KNf6

2. QNc3 KP6

3. QP4

 

Yes, it is a flexible setup. Black can choose to tranpose into a Nimzo Indian with 3...Bb4 or into the Queen's Gambit Declined with 3...d5

EnigmaKitty

I was thinking far too strictly in that everything must have a name, that's all. I see now that it's flexible though and that's kind of why. Not sure what I was thinking at the time, just jumped on it way too early before enough moves were played in the position.

LTwo

I think 3.e4 is main line

 

Twpsyn

The question you need to ask is, what are you doing? He started playing the English? Do you have a go to system against the English? The two main moves are 1. c5 or 1. e5 chalanging the centre. Maybe he decided that you were being to passive in the centre so he decided to occupy and call your hyper modern bluff. I know most people who would get to this position using 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e3 3.Nc3 would tend to play the Nimzo-Indian and would love it. People tend to shy away from playing against the Nimzo it's got quite a fearsome reputation. A lot of people would shy away from playing 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e3 3.Nc3 but rather try the Queens Indian, Catalan, Bogo Indian and generally anything but the Nimzo. My advice to a beginner is forget about hyper modern systems if you can, try to occupy the centre 1. c5 or 1. e5 is the way to go. Be aggressive, and remember if you are playing another beginner they also will make mistakes try to spot them. But no, there's objectively nothing wrong with this position it's playable from both sides. No one has dropped a piece or is positionally inferior. Black is being hyper modern though and needs to know what he's doing. If he does he tends to play the Nimzo in this position and tends to know the Nimzo system very well.