1.e4 e5 2. Bc4 how to respond on that?

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This is often played opening, and as black I dont know to respond to it, so i defend myself step by step and usually get in defence situation from where I sometimes get out and sometimes dont. How to quickly respond to this, and does it have a name?

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It's the Bishop's Opening. All you have to do is play sensibly: 2. .... Nf6 3. d3 Nc6 (or Bc5).

 

p.s. Post a link to a game, in which it all went wrong for you. Maybe, we will be able to improve your play.

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Thank you for response... But what when he plays 3.Nf3, Nxe4 ;4.Nxe5.....

He now is able to play Nf7 or Bf7 and I am  deep in..... Or if  would play 4. ...., Ng5 he will rouin my O-O and the hole my oppening.

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vran925 wrote:

Thank you for response... But what when he plays 3.Nf3, Nxe4 ;4.Nxe5.....

He now is able to play Nf7 or Bf7 and I am  deep in..... Or if  would play 4. ...., Ng5 he will rouin my O-O and the hole my oppening.

After 4. Nxe5 simply 4...d5 as in the diagram below
 
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Although the above line is definitely playable, after 3. Nf3 is is better to play 3...Nc6 or 3...d6. If white plays Ng5, you can usually follow up with ...d5, exd5 and ...Nxd5, attacking the knight with the queen

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2.  ...  Nf6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.d3 Bc5

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TheKonigsbergKid wrote:

Although the above line is definitely playable, after 3. Nf3 is is better to play 3...Nc6 or 3...d6. If white plays Ng5, you can usually follow up with ...d5, exd5 and ...Nxd5, attacking the knight with the queen

Actually that line is not "playable", it's already slightly better for Black.

White has a couple of reasonable ways to meet 3...Nxe4 (although he cannot hope for more than equality), but 4.Nxe5? is certainly not one of them.

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My apologies. Perhaps I was somewhat vague when I said 'playable'... it is indisputable that the aforementioned line is slightly better for black, as you said Sir. However,I meant to say that the line is OK for beginning or intermediate players, albeit somewhat erroneously.

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There is nothing wrong with your suggested 3...Nc6, but why enter the two knights' defence mess, where you have to know your respectable amount of theory, instead of having a great game instantly, and with very natural means?

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Agreed; entering these types of positions seems to be a futile pursuit and as you alluded to, it is by no means the most intuituve or effective method of exploiting white's initiative.  

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and to vran925, hello :)

if you have an aversion to being coerced into a passive defence (as I do) might I recommend adopting the Sicilian Defence against 1.e4 ?

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spanish_innovations wrote:
vran925 wrote:

Thank you for response... But what when he plays 3.Nf3, Nxe4 ;4.Nxe5.....

He now is able to play Nf7 or Bf7 and I am  deep in..... Or if  would play 4. ...., Ng5 he will rouin my O-O and the hole my oppening.

After 4. Nxe5 simply 4...d5 as in the diagram below
 
Is nxf7.. a problem ?
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Thank you guys, you really helped me. TheKonongsbergKid: I will try it

P.S. Sorry for my bad English

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Sounds good vran925, I wish you all the best with the Sicilian. It has been a good friend of mine for quite some time now.

I have a Bosnian friend named Dzemo Hadziosmanovich.I have never been, but I have heard very good things about the country.

 As for your English, it is quite good, nothing to be sorry about!

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childish ! but good !

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Good

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TheKonigsbergKid wrote:

Although the above line is definitely playable, after 3. Nf3 is is better to play 3...Nc6 or 3...d6. If white plays Ng5, you can usually follow up with ...d5, exd5 and ...Nxd5, attacking the knight with the queen

ummm that's a transposition into the Fried Liver which is definitely not recommended for black. After ... Nxd5 white follows with Nxf7?!?!?

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..c6 is best

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This is the Italian

Avatar of GreenCastleBlock

2...Nf6 and 2...Nc6 are both quite reasonable.

2...Nc6 3.Nf3 would be an Italian, but as White could have more reliably reached the Italian another way, he'll more than likely play 3.Nc3 instead.  Then Black can play 3...Bc5 or 3...Nf6.  It's a matter of taste.  On 3...Bc5, though, one should know how to meet 4.Qg4.  In another thread on here I read someone suggest an intriguing gambit that doesn't look half bad: