it's pretty clear from your last two threads that you and your engine have solved chess. we should all just stop playing, everything is so simple now.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6
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I prefer this line for white that I played tonight:
http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=562145271
see sloughter, you wasted 7 moves.
p.s. what would you do if black does not play exd?
Scottrf wrote:
I prefer this line for white that I played tonight:
Nice game! How come you're are "only" 1400?
molokombo wrote:
see sloughter, you wasted 7 moves.
p.s. what would you do if black does not play exd?
exd4 appears to be a blunder. While White didn't have to play as aggressively as he did, I don't see any quiet continuations giving Black any trouble. Best for Black appears to be:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Bg4 4. Nc3 exd4 5. Qxd4 Nc6 6. Qa4 Nf6 7. Ba6 Qc8 8.Nd5 Be7 9. Bb5 Bd7 10. O-O a6 11. Be2 Nxd5 12. exd5 Ne5 13. Qb3 * =
Fischerfan10 wrote:
3...Bg4? is a well known mistake. It is not best. 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 when black has a number of viable options including 3...ed 3...Nf6 and the previously thought inadequate 3...Nd7.
Mistake or not it appears to equalize.
gg
sloughterchess wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
I prefer this line for white that I played tonight:
Nice game! How come you're are "only" 1400?
Because I make too many mistakes? It's going up, but I used to get into time trouble almost every game. Plus I haven't really been playing that long so not familiar with many lines, and in correspondence I can use the explorer (although this is secondary to ridiculous blunders when I rush).
paulgottlieb wrote:
Richard, 1. e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3. d4 Bg4 has been known to be an error for almost 200 years. Have you never seen Paul Morphy's "Oper Game"
Nope. If you can would you post the game score here?
I don't know what you mean by Bg4 equalising though? I don't think I've failed to win a game where my opponent plays it. There's just too much pressure.
sloughterchess wrote:
molokombo wrote:
see sloughter, you wasted 7 moves.
p.s. what would you do if black does not play exd?
exd4 appears to be a blunder. While White didn't have to play as aggressively as he did, I don't see any quiet continuations giving Black any trouble. Best for Black appears to be:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Bg4 4. Nc3 exd4 5. Qxd4 Nc6 6. Qa4 Nf6 7. Ba6 Qc8 8.Nd5 Be7 9. Bb5 Bd7 10. O-O a6 11. Be2 Nxd5 12. exd5 Ne5 13. Qb3 * =
Bg4 is about the worst 3rd move you could pick as people have pointed out. not playing dxe is certainly not a blunder. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Nf3 4. Nc3 Nbd7 5. Bc4 Be7 6. 0-0 0-0 is one of many lines which are absolutely fine for black. the position is a little cramped, but without weaknesses and counterplay can generally be created by a well timed exd followed by pressurising the white e pawn.
it's great that you want to create discussion around various openings, but please don't try to talk like an authority on something because you ran it through an engine once.
molokombo wrote:
sloughterchess wrote:
molokombo wrote:
see sloughter, you wasted 7 moves.
p.s. what would you do if black does not play exd?
exd4 appears to be a blunder. While White didn't have to play as aggressively as he did, I don't see any quiet continuations giving Black any trouble. Best for Black appears to be:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Bg4 4. Nc3 exd4 5. Qxd4 Nc6 6. Qa4 Nf6 7. Ba6 Qc8 8.Nd5 Be7 9. Bb5 Bd7 10. O-O a6 11. Be2 Nxd5 12. exd5 Ne5 13. Qb3 * =
Bg4 is about the worst 3rd move you could pick as people have pointed out. not playing dxe is certainly not a blunder. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Nf3 4. Nc3 Nbd7 5. Bc4 Be7 6. 0-0 0-0 is one of many lines which are absolutely fine for black. the position is a little cramped, but without weaknesses and counterplay can generally be created by a well timed exd followed by pressurising the white e pawn.
it's great that you want to create discussion around various openings, but please don't try to talk like an authority on something because you ran it through an engine once.
3...Bg4 is about as good as any other reply; Black just plays a gambit with about an equal position:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Bg4 4. dxe5 Nc6 5. exd6 Nf6! 6. Bb5 Bxd6 7. h3 Bxf3 8.Qxf3 O-O 9. Bxc6 bxc6 10. Nc3 Rb8 11. O-O Be5 12. Rd1 Qe7 13. b3 Rfe8 14. Bb2 Qf8 15. Re1 Re6 16. Rad1 Qe7 17. Qe3 c5 18. Qd2 c6 19. Ba3 Bxc3 20. Qxc3 Nxe4 21. Qc4 Ng5 22. Rxe6 Nxe6
The Knight on e6 is dynamite and gives full compensation for his compromised pawn structure.
Unless Black can castle Queenside, White just castles Queenside, pushes his Kingside pawns and wins a piece.