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A Bust to the Patzer Opening

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browni3141
The_Gavinator wrote:

So it's agreed, the Parham pwns?

It pwns jetfighter, and whatup seems like a good enough player to beat me with it, at least in blitz.

The_Gavinator

Let me take a look at Rubidiums lines, he claims they're serious...

The_Gavinator

Well, those don't work, if white plays bad I guess those would work...

Ben_Dubuque

I thought you all ment imediately after be specific when you want to input.

after re analysing d6 Black wins. picking up a pawn and a really good position from it

Ben_Dubuque
The_Gavinator wrote:

Well, those are retarted, if white plays as bad as jetfighter I guess those would work...


be carefull, I said no insults, cussing, or name calling, considering that you probably didn't read my second post, I will give you a warning. also because I am nice.

anyway need to go play some CCR on my Guitar

"some folk's were born... Made to wave the Flag, OOOH there red white and blue, and when the band they play Hail to the Chief, oooh they point their cannon at you. It aint me it aint me. I aint no senator's son now now"

Ben_Dubuque

BTW I read that one post on the scotch forum about Parham, interesting read, interesting system of depicting positions and notation and all. I would bet a pretty penny that parham is a very good mathmatitian, and could probably beat me based on my not so good attention span. I do want to criticise the picture they chose for him though, would you trust a guy who looks like Gadaffi???

 

anyway not saying he is wrong, but he just goes to the beat of a different drummer.

also can someone check the most recent 11. ... d6 line.

Ben_Dubuque

after looking here is the other option

after 11. ...d6

so Bc5 is actualy the best line for white. um I double checked nothing missed, no tactics, and everything was thoroughly analysed.

The_Gavinator

In the subline, black is just plain old down a pawn, in the mainline, after 15. Qf3, Nf6, dxc6 wins a pawn...

Helzeth

I gave you a line where black was solid and you STILL manage to screw up. in the first diagram white is clearly better with bc5 followed by bd6
STOP IT

PLEASE
STOP
 IT
I CANT
TAKETIHA UHAIJT
GAAH :@

 

I'm going to GODAMN QUOTE my diagram from before. LOOK at it this time. Do not DARE to cry at me for insulting you or something similiar, if you don't want to be called nonrussian or stupid then STOP BEING STUPID AND START BEING RUSSIAN:

STOP
STOP IT
STOP IT
STOP IT
STOP IT
I HATE YOU.

Ben_Dubuque

you overlooked b6

also Gavinator in the mainline I checked Qf3 on move 15. and in the subline Black should recover his pawn and have a decent endgame



Helzeth

bd6. white is positionally lost

go to the parham thread now. We gave a proper bust to it.

Ben_Dubuque

let me see real quick

Helzeth

after that bxe4 instantly wins. I'm sure even you should understand how hopeless this is.

I'm adding you to my ''do not pay attention to list''. You're even worse than gavinator.

The_Gavinator

Well that's because I am good, and he hasn't done very good with this...

The_Gavinator

Jetfighter, people posted a somewhat good line, and here's how we destroyed it:



Rubidium
The_Gavinator wrote:

Jetfighter, people posted a somewhat good line, and here's how we destroyed it:

 



Just pitiful. Untrack!

Ben_Dubuque

here is how that fails

and Helzeth, what Bishop, white has no Bishop in the position you were refering to in comment # 54, unless you weren't specific again

The_Gavinator

Too bad white's position is much better...

Ben_Dubuque

no I would beg to differ on that Gavinator I would say that Black is At least, AT LEAST equal. and Adlegit, I know I am just trying to prove a point to them, but they obviously don't listen to the one time I get it right.

by the way Gavinator, who is winning in the following position

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I will accept only your first answer so make sure it's correct.

The_Gavinator

Taking into the fact that black's up a piece, and you're trying to be clever, I'm gonna have to go with white