Aggressive Response to 4...Nf6 in the Scotch

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The_Gavinator

Then why has nobody simply posted a line where black doesn't get crushed?? You all claim this is so bad, in everything you post black is completely mowed over, that's at least what those of you who don't automatically overlook this because it moves the queen out or stupid crap like that...

Helzeth
The_Gavinator wrote:

Then why has nobody simply posted a line where black doesn't get crushed?? You all claim this is so bad, in everything you post black is completely mowed over, that's at least what those of you who don't automatically overlook this because it moves the queen out or stupid crap like that...

You say that you want to reject the ruy lopez because it's an easy draw.

Study any of karpovs games in his prime and let me know what his grandmaster opponents did wrong because they couldnt obtain any easy draws vs him.

After you're doing doing that let me know how an opening which guarantees dead drawn equality within less than 10 moves is a better attempt than the ruy.

Go for it.

The_Gavinator

The Ruy guarantees a dead drawn equality in 3 moves.

And why not play 8.h3?

The_Gavinator

p.s.- Kasparov is the greatest player ever, of course his opponents are going to fall to him. I'm trying not to be rude, but come on bro...

Helzeth

after h3 black can take the initiative with nb4, forcing you to go to a3 with your knight(completely leaving the center)

Your opening is a failure if you spend two moves on your queen in order to put it on a meh square and denying the f3 square of your knight and then another move playing h6 while all black has done is developed normally. Logically it's easy to see that black is better already.

 

Karpov*
And karpovs opponents would NOT fail in the variation I gave(that would most certianly draw) and in this position they might even hope for something a little bit more...

You're so bad that you're making karpov lose. Stop it.

 



The_Gavinator

I'm sorry, Karpov is only in like the top 5 players of all time? He still is much better than the opposition he played.

And how would Nb4 put black ahead? It actually seems it puts black behind.

Helzeth
He wouldnt have been the top 5 players if he got into positions like this. He made the opening, middlegame and endgame a living hell for his opponents through constant pressure on both sides of the board, something the spanish allows. This does NOT allow that. It allows black a stable center in exchange for cheap tactical tricks that a 1700 player can solve WITHOUT EVEN SETTING UP A REAL BOARD ON HIS OWN.

Learn your place, nonrussian filth.
 
The_Gavinator

Why not 9. Nbc3? Two pieces for a rook but have better position...

Helzeth

Two pieces? Dream on. Black wins in the tactical skirmish(which isnt a suprise because his position is far more healthy) , winning the entire game.

Stop giving moves, now. You're just as bad as jetfighter was when he attempted to refute the parham.

edit:
Actually, maybe you've done worse. At least he had the excuse of being black and talking about an opening he most likely has no experience with. This is YOUR SYSTEM and you're failing with it.

I hope this is enough to shut you up.

The_Gavinator

That's pretty good except for the fact that it should be 10. Kd2, only jetfighter would do 10. Kd1.

Helzeth

That's pretty good except for the fact that Kd2 allows nxe4 after 11. nd5 (notice your bg5 bishop)

More rope?

 

I see now why you're 1300, you're blind as a bat when it comes to tactics.

 



The_Gavinator

No actually I'm a 1300 because this site makes it impossible to gain rating by normal games, and blitz games have no pre-moves so that's no good.

BTW, move 9 should be 0-0, my bad.

Rubidium

That's a great idea. Only problem is, you need to review the rules again, GM.

Rubidium

http://www.chess.com/learn-how-to-play-chess.html#howtomove

The_Gavinator

Are you guys like dumb or something? How am I in check at move 9?

Helzeth

Regardless of what you play at that point you're inferior. Do you really wish the pursue the path of jetfighter where you constantly humiliate yourself by suggesting sub par moves that get refuted by superior players? Didn't you think it was pathethic when he did it? You're in the same position now.

This will be the last move of yours that I'll be commenting on because I've already made my point and you're only making a pathethic fool out of yourself from now on

 

o-o in the position we've discussed just now does not work, you're in check

o-o after d5 hangs a piece

There.
Now children, let us stop making fun of the class clown. Remember, he is only doing this because you will not pay attention to him if he tries any other way.

Rubidium

A knight at c2 can move to e1, or so I've been told.

This is so funny. Can't stop laughing.

Rubidium
The_Gavinator wrote:

Are you guys like dumb or something? How am I in check at move 9?

The_Gavinator

See kids, when a knight is on b4, and a king is on e1, that is NOT check. Are you sure pfren is an IM?

Helzeth

h6 instead of nc2. No need to allow whites stupid initiative, whatup

Since I've dealt with one of the trolls I'll completely ignore gavi and his pathethic cries for attention and shut up whatup.

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