I suggest if you have trouble with dealing with hypermodern opening, you should also play hypermodern openings too.
Sometimes in chess, if your opponents like to play "anti-chess" and just sit back like how José Mourinho sits back in football, you should beat them by joining them (in their strategy).
#46 great job for doing a concrete research instead of making assumptions because of his rating, I think people should start learning openings as soon as they stop blundering one move tactics consistently
#46 great job for doing a concrete research instead of making assumptions because of his rating, I think people should start learning openings as soon as they stop blundering one move tactics consistently
That largely depends on what you mean by "learning openings". If you mean they should start memorizing opening lines 15-20 moves deep, I disagree. If you mean they should have some idea of what openings they will play against their opponent's moves and what the main ideas are in those openings, sure. Knowing the first 5-10 moves and the general middlegame plans will help play a good middlegame. But like you said, none of that is going to matter if you are hanging checkmate in 1 from winning positions consistently.
OMG you [Removed: Offensive] are clueless. who do you think you are trying to tell me what goes on in MY OWN FREAKIN' MIND?!!! you really need to get over yourselves.
i have name and number dyslexia. THAT could be the reason why I don't get position. i don't get it and never will BECAUSE I CAN'T VISUALIZE IT!!! there can be no learning of pawns because as I've stated a billion times, I was unable to wrap my head around not one, but THREE different authors lessons on a SIMPLE pawn ending. don't second guess what i say. ooooh your condescending know it all crap is REALLY whizzing me off. instead of effing ARGUING with me, offer help. that doesn't mean "impose YOUR world view on me".
i don't get position PERIOD. if you want to argue, get the eff out of my thread troll!
hpow do i block members? i'm getting sick of this counterproductive trifling troll shee! memorizing position (getting really hard now with my age and brain damage BTW!) is the ONLY way I get into games I can play. say otherwise, and you are a [Removed: Offensive]! telling people what's in their head when you [Removed: Offensive] see? go away troll. you have nothing to say worth hearing. find someone else's crap to impose yourself in!
i hate nothing more than social climbers.
found it! buh bye pawn tsunami! talk to yourself troll!
i feel better already
I suggest if you have trouble with dealing with hypermodern opening, you should also play hypermodern openings too.
Sometimes in chess, if your opponents like to play "anti-chess" and just sit back like how José Mourinho sits back in football, you should beat them by joining them (in their strategy).
I said that! maybe i said it in another thread, but I definitely considered "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" . when i said "system", i meant repertoire too.
as to "winning repertoires", they're LOSING with me if they're positional. i despised the sicilian for over a decade trying grand prix attack (thinking it would play like king's gambit), advance variation which only made pawns more infuriating, the lame (at least with the skimpy 8 pages of theory in my "book") wing gambit and only started winning when i learned smith morra. then, my 5% score turned instantly into 90% plus. it was glorious having all my pieces on CORRECT squares ready to pounce on any black slip ups. now that i've forgotten the theory, i'm doing terrible in it. i just can't find the right squares to attack from.
i really wish i didn't have this blind spot in my brain, but that's the price i have to pay for being a visual/spatial mastermind. ever hear of a genius who can't read or even tie his own shoes? i know my limitations and am honest with myself about them. having clueless outsiders tell me how the eff my brain works doesn't help. what helps is the WORKAROUNDS i'm TRYING to find, but as always online, few truly ever want to help. they merely want to justify their own crap.
i just played a game where i got stomped by a 1200 this morning when my pieces were so uncoordinated (THAT is the problem!) i ended up in forced positions and had to sac material to blunt attacks. weak players with their weird moves i can't wrap my head around have always been a problem. i used to do better against 1500+ than under when i was a 1650. sane moves are easier to understand, or at least work against.
1. e4 e5 2. f4 Qh4+ 3. g3 Qe7 4. Bc4 exf4
and there it is! a stupid little pawn move and i'm already losing! i haven't seen anyone play the keen since 2012. i forgot it and blundered it. once the blunders start, they snowball. this is what i'm talking about. i'm struggling trying to figure out how to develop with increasing frustration. i was losing my mind the whole game.
this wasn't about tactics! it's 110% about development! (and TRYING to prevent that effing queen from getting my rook)
you see whatever you want, but i see a positional nightmare.
#46 great job for doing a concrete research instead of making assumptions because of his rating, I think people should start learning openings as soon as they stop blundering one move tactics consistently
I don't know for sure what my rating even is! i THINK it's about 1470, but I now know conclusively that at least one patzer is sandbagging me! possibly the 1700 i crushed in the fisher who came at me with half a dozen accounts to drive me down to 1320!
today, i played a 1900 i was actually doing really well against until the middlegame in the tennison gambit. after losing, i was refused a rematch. my next opponent was a 1300 who ALSO played the tennison! WHAT ARE THE ODDS?!!!
ironically enough, or not, i think i fared better against the 1900. WOW! I actually worked up a 3 point advantage until move 12 where I played f3 instead of Bg4. i see the pawn move as a can opener against the g&h pawns and ruining any plans for 0-0, but stockfish sees it as worth a minor piece!
i just don't see what's wrong with pushing the disposable pawn that's doing nothing and ripping my opponent's position open. i want those pawns out of the way. that's how i think. straight line to the target.
looking back, i see i mated the 1300 in 22, but the coincidence, when i note long strings of 10 losses followed by smaller ones of wins. i smelled something and 2 tennisons in a row is almost a statistical impossibility!
Every position hides its own hopes, dreams and aspirations. The best way to improve is not to try to find one system for every option black has but to try to understand the specifics of the positions you face. I know that can feel incoherent. One way to do that that feels coherent is to pick a player past or present whose style you like, get their book of annotated games, mimic their opening selection and learn the MG ideas of the opening by playing thru their games.
i don't do ideas and strategies. THOSE are the chess books i'd avoid like the plague. i'm done with chess books actually. they play toothless bean counting grandmaster wuss lines and ignore the stuff people ACTUALLY play. i prefer them out of the picture and finding my own lines in amateur games. then, my theory isn't swiss cheese and a bunch of GM lines no one actually plays. if i were to buy a book, it would be pure theory, and no time wasted on notation which mostly does nothing for me.
thank you for trying to help, but my mind isn't like yours. what works for you doesn't work for me. memorization of tactical open lines is the only way i can play well. oh i wish i knew the smith morra like i used to. my rating in smith morra only starting with my first games rating was something like +200. it's because it fit my tactical style. i had no clue what the positions "meant", but i could parrot them until my opponents left book or blundered.
i would bet my rating against the sicilian was 500 before that. i'm not exaggerating. this is how i know what i need to succeed... a good gambit. king's gambit is what's holding my rating up. i'm kicking a lot of butt in it like i'm not against pirc, modern, indians, alekhine and in the stonewall which used to be the center of my rating when i was playing it from both sides. people are doing all kinds of new crazy things i can't figure out in that too now.
#53 are you serious? 2 Tennisons Gambit in a row is impossible but getting the SAME opponent twice is normal?
indeed. He is quite a character to come along in a long time. I'm sure the Vets can name a few in the past 5 yes 🤔. As it is, I was also a B-Boy back in the day (while being in the Chess Club and High School Newspaper heh) and I can say my Calculus Teacher did NOT appreciate me Backspinning in her classroom 😅. (but I really don't believe he's older than I am heh)
If you hate closed positions so much, just don't put two pawns in the center.
not getting "arrrrghed" by trolling today. just popped in to reply to whoever condescendingly said "he's just a 1400" to dismiss a comment. that's my sandbagged and stressed by all the weird crap that was played at tempo rating. my CURRENT lichess rating, after stalemating an 1839 up 2 queens, a bishop and a pawn to my lone king in the icelandic gambit here, this morning:
is right at 1800 even. I thought it was the best I'm capable of. i'm not studying theory at all. when i'm facing random player, i'm playing around 1800, though i'm slowly slipping a point or two at a time as I started out at 1870 after provisional. i'm hardly ever getting tripped up by weird rat and owens etc formations and, if anything, it seems like a lot of 1800s are really timid players and get rattled easily. beating an 1818 as one too in 13 moves recently was delicious!
gik'tal is klingon for "to the death" and there was this chess player named Tal
As a gambit player, the Caro-Kann should be fun as white. Watch Jonathan Schrantz's "how to beat the caro-kann in 5 moves" video on the Breyer Variation (1. e4 c6 2. d3). His system follows: 2... d5 3. Nf3 dxe4 4. Ng5 exd3 5. Bxd3 and if 5... e6 is not played, 6. Nf7 Kxf7 7. Bg6+ Kxg6 Qxd1 and you've won the queen. You could also play the Advance, Tal Variation Bishop Trap (1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. h4) and if 4... e6, 5. g4 wins the bishop. I also saw the Advanced Panov (1. e4 c6 2. c4 d4 3. cxd4 cxd4 4. exd4 Qxd4 5. Nc3 Qd6/Qd8/Qa5 6. d4) mentioned above and that certainly looks interesting. As a player who plays 1... Nf6 (Alekhine's/Indian/Anglo-Indian) nearly every game, against the Normal Variation Alekhine's the Exchange Variation or Four Pawns Attack are best (if Mokele Mbembe, then d4, if Mokele Mbembe Modern Line then Bd3 h4, if Mokele Mbembe Vavra Defense, then c3 Nh6 Bd3 Be3 Qg4), for the Modern, Three Pawns Attack with ideas of Be3 Qd2 Bh6 (if Bxh6 Qxh6, if not Bxg7) and then pawn storm the kingside, for the French, Exchange or watch ChessDojo's video on the Advance, Paulsen Attack with ideas of Bd3 and 0-0, for the Pirc, the e4 d4 d5 c4 Nc3 system against the 2... e5 Maroczy, if 2... c5, transpose into a Sicilian, if 2... f5 transpose into Dutch, if 2... e6 then play e4 d4 c4 f4 Nf4 Nc6 Bd3 Be3 for the perfect opening (the Small Center Defense is a joke). Good luck against those trench weasels!
again, it's not pieces that hurt me in games, it's position. i intended to share a nightmare game against a 1200-1300 who wrecked my castle, my queenside AND bishop pair before move 10 and i just wanted to quit right there with all my pieces uncoordinated. i get into positions where my pieces are all on bad squares and trip worse and worse trying to make things happen.
Your self assessment is wrong. It is not pieces or positions, but tactics that are doing you in.
little pawn moves drive me nuts. i despise pawns! they are the cause of maybe half of my positional agony, like a day or two ago... i had an advantage and totally blew it trying to crack open a fianchetto with an extra pawn on f5. i threw everything at it and never opened it up. that's the kind of foofy positional stuff i just can't wrap my head around.
Pawns are the soul of chess. Learn how to use them.
i deal in pieces... big "predictable" moves.
That is like saying "I only drive a car with 1 gear".
OK... maybe i should rephrase my question... what are strong attacking lines that rip the center open so one can actually play some chess?
You have an opponent. Neither of you can unilaterally decide what type of game it is going to be. You do not get to say "Hey, we are ripping open the center whether you like it or not". Your opponent has moves, too. In many lines, the position may remain closed for quite a while (and guess what - that is still playing some chess!).
as to black repertoire... i wanted to play the albin, but at = stats, it's not the strongest gambit. that, and i'd need a lot more because it seems like i never see queen's gambit anymore. no point in studying openings one never uses.
Openings are not your problem, nor should they be your focus.
as to hypermoderns, my understanding is that they involve 1 square pawn pushes. push 2, and you're not a hypermodern. as the carokann only pushes to c6, that's as hypermodern as pirc, modern & fianchettos etc. it's just a different push. i'm defining by first pawn move by the way. the french pushes to d5 most of the time, but it starts with that e6 that puts me in a bad mood whenever i see it. i swear i'm losing games out of frustration of drawing black 3 times in a row and/or playing half a dozen games in a row of nothing but openings i hate. there's gonna be stonewalling happening there.
Your definition of "hypermodern" is just wrong. The hypermodern approach is to not challenge the center with pawns and instead pressure it with pieces before making any pawn moves towards the center. The Pirc and Modern are both hypermodern defenses. The Caro-Kann and French are not. In fact, the Caro-Kann and French are "cousins", so to speak.
You are losing games because of tactics and ignoring your opponent's moves.
if anyone knows of a resource that really tells you how openings play, i'd be happy to do some homework, but in trying to pick a repertoire, i can't find good descriptions of any opening anywhere. that's a lot of time chasing dead ends and question marks.
There are literally dozens of videos on chess.com and various YouTube channels that discuss the ideas in various openings. But again, the opening is not your problem.