Albin Counter Gambit doesnt work at all

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You'll find for most gambit lines people just do not play into the traps that readily. As stated above, if you try playing them, you really better have your prep sorted for when your opponent doesn't waltz straight into the box canyon with their pants down for you, because you didn't just pretend to weaken your position by playing the gambit, you actually weakened your position by trying unsuccessfully to play the gambit. The sword cuts both ways. playhand.png

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The Albin Counter-Gambit · Chess Openings  - Hanging Pawns...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drRFTPODZlA

Tremendous pressure with The Albin Gambit! - IM Andrew Martin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tZ65TNTwt0

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NikkiLikeChikki wrote:

What on earth does "you just can't do it" even mean? At your level of play the Alekhine does better than what Magnus usually plays. At your level the King's Gambit does just as well as what Magnus plays. At your level, the Stafford Gambit does better than **anything** Magnus plays, but would score exactly 0% in GM games. Saying that it's no good because it would suck for Magnus misses an important point: you're not Magnus.

By the way, Nepo beat Firouzja last month with a "stinky" opening. Git rekt Alireza, ya noob.

Learn English Please I said the comments were "Stinky" not the opening

Albin gambit as well as other gambits have been used by high rated players

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Morfizera wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
Morfizera wrote:
tygxc wrote:

All gambits are unsound except Queen's Gambit. Albin's Countergambit is not that bad, it is certainly better than Englund Gambit. You have to play accurately to take advantage of your pawn on d4, and use it like a thorn in your opponent's position.
Here is an example of how to play it
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1913727 

 

Evans gambit is not unsound

staunton gambit is not unsound

from's gambit is not unsound

blackdiemer i haven't really played but i have a little trouble playing against it so i'd add it to my list not unsound gambits?

blackmar diemer is an unsound gambit if your opponent has a habit of calculating your moves

 

Do people actually do that in online blitz?

that's not a good way to justify any opening lol

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DrJetlag wrote:
RussBell wrote:

CRUSH The Queen's Gambit in 6 Moves: THE ALBIN - GothamChess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU9ai7VYylk

 

I love these videos by Gotham, also the one on the Englund. Not because I play these openings, but because I credit them for making me face these more often than I would otherwise. Since most people who go for these (at least at lower to intermediate level) play them for the tricks, I don't often see them well prepared if you don't fall for these.

People keep saying that these are "perfectly playable" at lower levels, but you'd have to put in some effort to play them well, and that time might well be invested in a sound opening. Why make life hard and get yourself into a difficult position early on? No one is really surprise by these openings anymore, more often than not White will be prepared.

I'm not talking about gambits or unsound openings in general, there are some that may be unsound at higher levels but offer excellent practical chances. But some are just the equivalent of starting a football game by making an own goal. Even when both sides are so bad that this one goal will unlikely make the difference, it's not something you would do.

One of my pet peeves is seeing people recommend the budapest gambit. "Wow!" I think to myself. Maybe someone else has come to the "enlightened conclusion" that the Budapest gambit is a sound opening! (enlightened conclusion because most people think the opposite).

Then I hear them say, "now black plays g5" or "black plays d6" and recommends playing some stupid sacrifice where white gains an easy positional advantage with three minutes of analysis (not joking - before i bought my budapest book I looked at it myself, and compared my analysis to the book's).

After that I have to deal with the crushing disappointment that the Budapest gambit will take another hit to its reputation for being a trappy opening to catch beginners unawares, and for the rest of the day everything annoys me.

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@ericthatwho - sorry for my lack of understanding of English. I guess I was thrown off when you wrote “fell of stinky stuff.” Also, I guess I assumed that when you wrote without context “that you just can’t do it” you were referring to the Albin and other gambits. I guess I’ll work on my English, though.
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B1ZMARK wrote:
Morfizera wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
Morfizera wrote:
tygxc wrote:

All gambits are unsound except Queen's Gambit. Albin's Countergambit is not that bad, it is certainly better than Englund Gambit. You have to play accurately to take advantage of your pawn on d4, and use it like a thorn in your opponent's position.
Here is an example of how to play it
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1913727 

 

Evans gambit is not unsound

staunton gambit is not unsound

from's gambit is not unsound

blackdiemer i haven't really played but i have a little trouble playing against it so i'd add it to my list not unsound gambits?

blackmar diemer is an unsound gambit if your opponent has a habit of calculating your moves

 

Do people actually do that in online blitz?

that's not a good way to justify any opening lol

 

that was just a joke lol

Avatar of sndeww
Morfizera wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
Morfizera wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
Morfizera wrote:
tygxc wrote:

All gambits are unsound except Queen's Gambit. Albin's Countergambit is not that bad, it is certainly better than Englund Gambit. You have to play accurately to take advantage of your pawn on d4, and use it like a thorn in your opponent's position.
Here is an example of how to play it
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1913727 

 

Evans gambit is not unsound

staunton gambit is not unsound

from's gambit is not unsound

blackdiemer i haven't really played but i have a little trouble playing against it so i'd add it to my list not unsound gambits?

blackmar diemer is an unsound gambit if your opponent has a habit of calculating your moves

 

Do people actually do that in online blitz?

that's not a good way to justify any opening lol

 

that was just a joke lol

Well I lost my sense of humor pardon my passive aggressiveness 

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I would give up on the Albin Counter gambit if i you sir. I have played it several times 

and even though there is no refutation, the lines where white plays an early g3 are 

bad for black. It also difficult to even get it on the board in practical games/ 5 or 6

games out of 10 you will see the london system,and even the players who play the

queens gambit often play Nf3 on move 2 and c4 next move. If you like an aggressive

defence with black look at playing the dutch

later dudes 

gommba88

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https://www.chess.com/tournament/albin-counter-gambit-13

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Oh geeze I literally just spent $250 on the Albin gambit complete repertoire for black with over 1,052 variations and 52 hours of video.

It does have some good sharp play involved. It has helped me and here's why... Before I got this course I knew the notations for a small number of openings but what's the point of learning an opening (any opening) if you all you know is the development. Learn what the openings advantages are, learn how to stop your opponent from changing up your development structure so they don't control your opening. If you like the opening then stick with it. By the sounds of it not a lot of people play it.