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Am I the only one who thinks that the King's Gambit is trash?

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camberfoil
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MonkeyH
Benzodiazepine

Hey, check my topic:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/truth-why-gambits-are-bad

Shot answer: all gambits are trash, especially so the queen's gambit (which is not even a real gambit by the way).

learning2mate

I play 1.e4 if e5 then 2. f4 if exf4 then 3. Nf3- and this line has given me a lot of interesting games with many wins. If it's trash then people don't know how to play against it well and since I like the positions that often arise I'm happy to continue playing it!

MonkeyH
Benzodiazepine wrote:

Hey, check my topic:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/truth-why-gambits-are-bad

Shot answer: all gambits are trash, especially so the queen's gambit (which is not even a real gambit by the way).

Sure, but Queen's Gambit is one of the soundest oldest openings there is...

Gambit's aren't thrash,I see it as taking on a bet. If I can use the extra development and win it works, 

if my opponent manages to hold the position and defends well I lost. 

I think gambits are the most exilerating thing there is about chess. 

I love playing king's gambit or blackmar-diemer gambit in blitz.

JonHutch
A-J-S wrote:

Just wanted to know if anyone shared my sentiment in the trash-ish nature of the King's Gambit.

 

Agreed. I win about 90% of the time against it.

camberfoil

I wasn't saying this was a game I played, just a general comment after observing another game.

csalami10

Every opening is bad if you play bad moves. It is playable, but black has no problem with equalizing. One of the best ways to handle it is just to play exf4 and then d5.

MonkeyH
PaullHutchh wrote:
A-J-S wrote:

Just wanted to know if anyone shared my sentiment in the trash-ish nature of the King's Gambit.

 

Agreed. I win about 90% of the time against it.

Hmm interesting, on your level you thrash the weakening of the kingside positionally? With my low rating I only use KG in Blitz but I win 90% of the time with it.

A_G_A

In chess.com's game explorer, white won in approximately 39.5% of the database games that were initiated with the King's Gambit. Black won 40.7%, and a draw was reached in 19.6% of the games.

batgirl

Chessgames.com has White:
+45.9%  -37.3%   =16.9%

Gomer_Pyle

Bronstein beat Tal with it. That should indicate it is more than trash.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1034470

Shmuckley

I think all textbook openings are trash. I do play quite a few textbook openings but have come up with them all from natural gameplay. I would rather play someone who doesnt follow a specified opening scheme because I figure that it limits the creative aspect of the game. I would rather beat someone tactically then by memorizing obscure opening deviations to get my wins.

king_warrior

I would be embarassed to say publicly for some opening which are in all theory books, played by best chess players all over the world in last 150 years to say it s trash or no good! So better work to improve your game than to make yourself a fool in front of thousadns of people like you jut did.

camberfoil
A_G_A wrote:

In chess.com's game explorer, white won in approximately 39.5% of the database games that were initiated with the King's Gambit. Black won 40.7%, and a draw was reached in 19.6% of the games.

So roughly even. Any opening is good if it is played well. What I was getting at in this topic was that this opening is only optimal if one is experienced enough to make the correct moves, which I assume all of us in this forum are. Thank you for the statistic.

TheRealPhoenix

The real kings gambit starts with e4 e5 f4 exf4 nf3 or bc4.What u just showed was trash play by white.If its really trash then u shud be able to beat morphy

uschessfan
 
King's Gambit is an excellent surprising oppening!It is full of sharp tactics that can offer many winning combinations for white!It is not the best oppening in the world but for (<1800 players) it is great!!!!Cool
Dude_3
TheRealPhoenix wrote:

The real kings gambit starts with e4 e5 f4 exf4 nf3 or bc4.What u just showed was trash play by white.If its really trash then u shud be able to beat morphy

Finally somebody who realizes that no sane person would play 3.d4

MuddledAutumn

Personally, I hate playing against the King's gambit as black. I used to play the Abazia, but now I play the Falkbeer counter gambit. Although I don't really like playing either. It always seems like White gets the edge in development even if Black tries to play actively. I'm not too good with opening lines though, so maybe if you know what you're doing, you can get just much as activity as white with black in the Falkbeer counter gambit. I think it's theoretically best to try to hold on to the extra pawn as black, but in order to do so you must be incredibly precise.




king_warrior
Mersaphe wrote:

True it's trash and the great players that use these openings only succeed because they're so knowledgable about chess and have so much experience. If a beginner plays the King's Gambit, he might be okay for a few moves but he will lose as soon as the opponent plays a move he didn't expect. To play openings well you need a deeper understanding of the game in all its aspects.

LMAO! Dont you see? You can say that for any opening! If beginer plays any opening he/she will be crashed after few moves if oponent plays something they didnt expect, they would be crashed anyway. So dont you realize it s not about opening, it s about a players who plays it!