Another New and Sound Gambit

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KillaBeez

My friend made this gambit up.  It is very good and gives at least an equal game.  Any attempt to hold on to the pawn will result in a disadvantage.  What do you think of it?


Feldmm1
I am definitely not a good player, but can't White play c4 or Nc3 to buy some time and possibly get an improved position?
redblack_redemption
Instead of 5. dxe5, I believe white should play 5. Nc3, followed by, say: 5... Qd6 6. d5 Ne7 after which white has many strong opportunities... they can win the pawn, they can play 7. Nb5, threatening the queen and threatening to fork king and rook.
wawapz
White to move
4... e5!?
This is where the gambit begins. The best move here is dxe5. If Nxe5, then Nxd4 when all of the tactics favor Black.

 

 

 

I'm not sure that dxe5 is best at all...  At a glance, c3, Nc3, and Be3 all seem like better alternatives.


crogers

Strange opening, I could see how it would be effective, but rarely does someone answer 1.e4 with Nc6 in the first place. Move 2 black would probably not even play d5 fearing a huge target with his queen after 2. d4 exd4 qxd4

 Move 3 white would obviously not play dxe5 after 3. dxe5 qxd5 kxd5

Yes, white wins a momentary pawn but his king can no longer castle, and it is a sitting duck on the now-open e-file.

So, even though, in a perfect world if these mistakes by white were made, black would have great tempo, development, and space, but very rarely would this strange opening ever be played

crogers


KillaBeez
I have yet to analyze other moves besides dxe5 so forgive me for making the statement that it is the best move.  I did not make this up, but there are probably better moves that White can play to get a better position.
Azoth
 
-And in my database i've 431 more games with this 1. e4 Nc6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. Nf3 e5 set up.
   Also the 1st time it was used acording to my database was on this next game

sirfraijo

3. exd5 is not an usual move, better 3. Nc3

 4.. e5 can transpose to a Chigorin defense variation with 5. Nc3 Bb4, but better for black is to play 4... Bg4.


KillaBeez
I did not know that it had that many games in the database; mine just searches by move order.  Thanks everybody for your imput!
PawnFork
I have played the first few moves as white, except I diverge with 4. Nc3.  The queen presents a big target.  I feel obligated to chase it around.  Hijinks ensue.
Azoth

@BasicLvrCH8r

so what?


KillaBeez

It was the first one Peter.  Not necessarily the best but it was the first time it was used.