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In this position from the opening of a Ponziani game--find the follow up

ponz111

ponz111

from a vote chess game. What is the continuation for White?

ponz111

This last position was really hard to find the best moves. I will give a position from the same game only earlier...

Bontrager

Hey ponz111,

On the second position on page 1, would Qd2 work?

ponz111

Bontrager the move Qd2 does not work because of this follow up

Qd2  Bxg5

Qxg5  Qxg5

Nxg5  Rxb3

 

also after Qd2 the rook sacrifice with Rxf3 probably works for Black.

ponz111

Also White had an alternate to 13. Bc1   and that would have been13. Be7  followed by  b4

ponz111

Find the next move

Bontrager

Nf6?

ponz111

Yes! 17. Nf6!  This move was found by pattern recognition.  This type of sac has happened before. The idea to see that the move is at least a possible move and then start your analysis if it is good or not?


This was a vote chess game Ponziani Power vs Black Knight Chess. Our group analyzed this move and almost abandoned it but then found a resource against one of the defenses.  Notice our sac is on f6 and I will continue the game... 

LoekBergman

24. Rxf6 gxf6 25. Re7 Qg8 26. Qxf6 and white will mate.

24. Rxf6 gxf6 25. Re7 Qxe7 26. Qxe7 and white has winning advantage.

24. Rxf6 Qxf6 25. Re8+ Rxe8 (25... Kh7 26. Bc2+) 26. Qxe8+ Kh7 27. Bg8+ Kh8 28. Bf7+ Kh7 29. Qg8#

ponz111
LoekBergman wrote:

24. Rxf6 gxf6 25. Re7 Qg8 26. Qxf6 and white will mate.

24. Rxf6 gxf6 25. Re7 Qxe7 26. Qxe7 and white has winning advantage.

24. Rxf6 Qxf6 25. Re8+ Rxe8 (25... Kh7 26. Bc2+) 26. Qxe8+ Kh7 27. Bg8+ Kh8 28. Bf7+ Kh7 29. Qg8#

Yes, you are correct. This is a 2nd sacrifice on the square f6! This one a lot easier to see than the first one. [unusual to have two sacrifices on the same square in one game.]

The game actually ended with 29. Qg8+ which is your 3rd line.

Here I will give the entire game with your ending [which was actually played]


 

Aortax

White to play black to play????????????

ponz111

The game was a Ponziani which had two sacrifices [for White] on the f6 square.  I have now given the full game with the two sacrifices plus a rather unique ending/checkmate.

However, since you were interested will give you the end of another game It is find the best move  difficulty hard

ponz111

Bontrager

Qg6+

:)

ponz111
Bontrager wrote:

Qg6+

:)

Yes, [although this position from vote chess has been published before]

We almost missed it as we had started voting for another move and we do not vote until we are sure of our move. Then one player/voter out of about 16 found it.

Bontrager

It's a little easier to find when you know there's a killer move somewhere :)