Beating the Kiddie counter-gambit in less than 10 moves

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I have seen an IM (name unmentioned) on here advocate for this line in the Wayward queen attack known as the Kiddie counter-gambit. I just played this game on shredderchess.net right now and beat my opponent in less than 10 moves.

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We had another game after this where he played 2. Nc6 and he won in 55 moves (or was it 54?).

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I've gone through a bunch of openings. I hate 2. Nf3. I like 2. f4, 1. d4, 1. c4 (and only then do I actually like 2. Nf3) and 2. Nc3 but 2. Nf3 only if I'm playing the English do I that.

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Mr. OneKnight was telling me he likes 1. e4 (hoping for Fried liver attack) and the Grob's attack a lot as white and as black, the Sicilian and the King's Indian defense.

I like queen pawn game, English (for positional battles), king's gambit, queen's gambit declined, Austrian attack (when playing the Pirc), and now this queen raid idea.

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I was joking when I said that. You really have to use discernment when hearing what I say. Half the stuff I say is meant to be taken seriously and the rest is meant for my own pure entertainment.

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Because many chess players don't have friends to joke with, only stupid or serious people exist for them.

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Love your comments, Radiovitch. And your down-to-eathedness.

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best move: 3... Qe2

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newengland7 wrote:

Love your comments, Radiovitch. And your down-to-eathedness.

i like his down-to-eathedness too

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This Wayward Queen attack: Kiddie countergambit 2. Nf6?! is an inaccuracy. Here's the optimal line:

 

 

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Alvin_Cruz wrote:
Yigor wrote:

This Wayward Queen attack: Kiddie countergambit 2. Nf6?! is an inaccuracy. Here's the optimal line:

 

I can agree with you, but I feel Black has chances in the final position. Actually, I feel some danger with White's position being behind in development.

 

Yeah, indeed, white has a slight advantage only in tricky computer-generated lines. In this sense, Kiddie countergambit is quite sound. wink.png

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newengland7 wrote:

I have seen an IM (name unmentioned) on here advocate for this line in the Wayward queen attack known as the Kiddie counter-gambit. I just played this game on shredderchess.net right now and beat my opponent in less than 10 moves.

Be7 was the first stupid move. A queen and pawn were already defending the knight. Bd6, in my opinion, is the better move.

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Are you saying : 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nf6 3. Qxe5+ Bd6 ? it's an illegal move.

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Be7 was the first stupid move. A queen and pawn were already defending the knight. Bd6, in my opinion, is the better move.

you uhm.... do realize black was in check right? Bd6, besides being a pretty bad move, is also illegal happy.png

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I've seen Monokroussos' video on this and I think he does look at that Qf4 line but I don't remember his analysis or how to access the video which is behind a paywall. Anyway you'd have to demonstrate Black actually has an advantage in the other lines to call this an inaccuracy and maybe it's possible to do that (Pfren shared some analysis of the f5 line which was pretty convincing a while back) but it can't be by very much. Usually people just say Black has equalized.

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Perfect way to counterattack this, good for 200-800 ELO
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Game was from a 600 elo player

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Brilliant sacrifice to counterattack from a 800 ELO
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After they take ur queen , it’s mate in 5 for you

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Cheesetypeplayer wrote:

After they take ur queen , it’s mate in 5 for you

you are actually one of the worst players I have every seen