Bogo or QID?

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Jion_Wansu
kevinpro12 wrote:

this is so bad

Yes it is. These odd openings are strange...

Chicken_Monster

The fact that you don't understand something doesn't make that thing "bad" or "strange." These are not esoteric openings accessible only to cognoscenti. Open a book and do a little reading.

Jion_Wansu
Chicken_Monster wrote:

The fact that you don't understand something doesn't make that thing "bad" or "strange." These are not esoteric openings accessible only to cognoscenti. Open a book and do a little reading.

HAH! Explain that to the people bashing my opening I invented called the German and its various lines located here:

 

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/the-f5-opening

drybasin
Jion_Wansu wrote:
Chicken_Monster wrote:

The fact that you don't understand something doesn't make that thing "bad" or "strange." These are not esoteric openings accessible only to cognoscenti. Open a book and do a little reading.

HAH! Explain that to the people bashing my opening I invented called the German and its various lines located here:

 

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/the-f5-opening

Apparently you misunderstand something in what he said.  Even if you understand an opening well, it does not necessarily mean it's good.  In this case, it's very clear what your "opening's" aim is: sacrifice pawns in order to gain a development advantage and attempt to gain a kingside attack.  You apparently know it well since you keep on playing games with it.  Does that mean it's any good?  Absolutely not.  It gives up several pawns needlessly and completely wrecks the kingside, while with a good defense White gets a perfectly fine position with several extra pawns.  The fact that you try to justify your opening with 3-minute games doesn't help your case at all.  On the other hand, the Bogo-Indian and the QID, which you call odd and strange, are very solid openings and played at the top level, and are respectable.  The people bashing your sad excuse for an opening have a good reason: It's just plain horrible.  To put it bluntly, if I had a choice between playing your opening as Black and the Grob as White, I would play the Grob in a heartbeat.

I am not sure how you have deluded yourself into thinking your opening is good.  It truly is beyond me.

Jion_Wansu

I never said it was good. There are good openings and bad openings AKA unorthodox openings or novelties. If your opponent doesn't know how to proceed then your opponent loses. This is with all openings rather. Also, you don't need to learn openings and opening lines to understand and play the game. As long as you understand the basics, such as development, controlling the center, stuff your opponents with your good pawn structures, sacrifice for attacks and mating nets, etc. You don't need to learn opening theory, just positional and tactical theories and "semi-bluffs" (I.E. poisoned pawns, poisoned pieces, decoys, etc.)

 

Here is an example of poisoned pieces:

Look at black's 15th move. It's more or less a move to see what white does and to bait white into doing something that white shouldn't be doing...

 

http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=1041595088

pfren
Jion_Wansu wrote:

As long as you understand the basics, such as development, controlling the center, stuff your opponents with your good pawn structures, sacrifice for attacks and mating nets, etc.

If you know all that then you will prefer your hand being cut rather than playing 1.e4 f5.