Caro-kann vs French Defense

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sndeww

imo it depends. Caro-Kann can lead to losses if you play too passively, while in some French lines the backwards e-pawn is particularly unappetizing.

Pawn_e1_Kenobi

caro kann

sndeww

neither lol

sndeww

then you've never faced my version of the caro advance

 

sndeww

as white, I don't play 1.e4 c6 2.d4.

I play 1.e4 c6 2.f4. 

thomas31408
MarcoDiazz wrote:

Replying to a post 9 years ago?

And you are too.

Pawn_e1_Kenobi

i like your profile picture @thomas31408 .

 

DavaldNavald
French defence is easier than caro-kann
sndeww

No not really

Pawn_e1_Kenobi

Caro is easier to learn and the top players play it. I have t seen a single top player play the French. Because the pieces are all trapped in the French and I can be vulnerable to kingside attacks I guess 

sndeww
Pawn_e1_Kenobi wrote:

Caro is easier to learn and the top players play it. I have t seen a single top player play the French. Because the pieces are all trapped in the French and I can be vulnerable to kingside attacks I guess 

GM simon williams plays the french, and I believe Korchnoi played it as well? And Nigel Short? 

But I'm no expert on the french, and i dont care either way.

KovenFan
Pawn_e1_Kenobi wrote:

Caro is easier to learn and the top players play it. I have t seen a single top player play the French. Because the pieces are all trapped in the French and I can be vulnerable to kingside attacks I guess 

Ian Nepomniachtchi plays it a lot.

Pawn_e1_Kenobi

Hikaru, danya, nepo. Who does the French have? A 2400 gm? Magnus? Alireza? Ding? Fabi? Nah no one plays the French not even the computer

sndeww

even leela doesn't like the french

Spades366

Why no one points, that both french and caro in many lines look quite similar? There is c5 pawn idea in caro, same as in french.  There is Nf5 idea creating extra pressure on d4 on both openings. In many lines of caro you need to take care about  light square bishop same as in french. In my humble opinion caro is less agressive, but much more flexible , and it nearly always delivers drawish positions for black. But both openings tell the same story. For tournament purposes i nearly always choose caro, as dont whant to deal whith winawer. In blitz however french is better, as it gives a little bit more dynamics.

pfren
SNUDOO έγραψε:

even leela doesn't like the french

 

Who is she? Your girlfriend?

What have the French done to her?

pfren
Pawn_e1_Kenobi έγραψε:

Hikaru, danya, nepo. Who does the French have? A 2400 gm? Magnus? Alireza? Ding? Fabi? Nah no one plays the French not even the computer

 

Magnus and Fabiano have played thε French MANY times. Ding and Firouzja- less often.

They are right to say that ignorance is bliss...

sndeww
pfren wrote:
SNUDOO έγραψε:

even leela doesn't like the french

 

Who is she? Your girlfriend?

What have the French done to her?

Lc0. I’m pretty sure Leela thinks white has good chances in the French, but it may be something I read a while ago.

thomas31408
Pawn_e1_Kenobi wrote:

i like your profile picture @thomas31408 .

 

LOL thanks, I'm a caro fan

Pawn_e1_Kenobi
pfren wrote:
SNUDOO έγραψε:

even leela doesn't like the french

 

Who is she? Your girlfriend?

What have the French done to her?

I thought an IM would know that Leela is an engine BRUHHH