Classical Dutch Defence

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BT90210

If I am intendeding to play a Classical Dutch setup ie 1...f5 2...Nf6 3...e6 4...Bd2 5...0-0 6...d6 etc. The games begins 1.d4 1...e6 2.e3 2...f5 3.f4 3...Nf6 4.Nf3 4...Be7 5. Bd3 5...0-0 6.0-0  My question is because of the pressure white has placed on e5, (making it difficult for play to play a future e5) am I best to forget about playing 6...d6 (ie Classical Dutch) or would I be better to play 6...d5 and transfer into a Dutch Stonewall?

In a larger context, I was wondering if whites setup spoils the counterplay for the Classical Dutch player?

BT90210

The reason I played 1...e6 was to avoid the Stauton Gambit, and I am prepared to play the French if my opponent plays 2.d4. Thanks for your response, but I am looking for responses that address the position in my original question.

Tatzelwurm

If you want to play the Dutch against a Stonewall setup, I recommend a quick queenside fianchetto (as soon as white plays f4).

lolurspammed

Why avoid the Staunton? You should be happy if white gives their advantage away in an opening where white has a small edge pretty much by force.

Tatzelwurm

1...e6 not only avoids the Staunton but also 2.Bg5. It is in fact the most common way to reach the Classical or Stonewall among masters.

csalami

Why not just play b6 followed by Bb7? If white allows to fianchetto your c8 bishop in the dutch you should do that. 

The_Ghostess_Lola

If you try playing the Dutch against me ?....well, you're gonna get 2.g4 (Krejcik Attack). The DD is a basically a gambit itself....so I'm gonna return the favor and gambit you back....in my own little way.

And since you play under 2000 ?....we're gonna rendevouz outta the book immediately. And since your black ?....don't even try taking control of the book on move 1. I'm white....and I'll be doing that. So, be well prepared. And BTW, bring your leftovers from last nite's chinese. You're gonna need it 'cuz it's gonna take you all day just to getta a draw from me....Smile....

IOW's, the Dutch Defence sux.

Moonblaster11

I recommend wathcing a video by Simon Williams on the Classical Dutch, he explains it incredibly well.

CornerPawn

We explore and play with a lot of these structures at Dynamic Dutch Defense.

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We play both the White and the Black side of these structures.