D4 OR E4!!!!!

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aami_rehatec

SRSLY GUYZ WICH WUN IZ BETER!!!!????!!

Scottrf

Yell

aami_rehatec

I THIK IT IZ E4 COZ U KAN MOOV THE QEEEN!!!!

Scottrf

You can after d4...

bastiaan

Both are equally fine, it depends on your style of play.
Pease don't use all caps or too many exclamation marks.

nextkasparov345

E4!!

mvtjc

OH YEAH!!Yell NF3!!!

TheGreatOogieBoogie

After 1.d4,f5 2.Qd3 you not only move the queen, but prepare the Manhattan Gambit. 

Anyway I like 1.d4 just because its openings are typically more flexible and have a better build up.  You'll have to look out for tactical tricks from black, especially with the Budapest lines.  The queen's "gambit" is also a better opening than the king's gambit. ^_^

jerry2468

The KG is not "busted". It's no longer played at top levels, because black achieves equality, but you can't call it "busted".

ViktorHNielsen

1: e4! c5?! 2: d4!! clear white edge

1: e4! e5!? 2 f4!! with a slight white edge

1: e4! e6!? 2: b3!? with an unclear position

1: e4! c6?! 2: d4 d5 3: e5 Bf5 4: Nc3 e6 5: g4!! with a sharp position, which sacrificing pawns is the main method to win.

Rest is just easy. ¨1: e4 is best by test¨ (Bobby Fisher)

Pascalz
Shawshank-Redeemer wrote:

e4, d4 is very passive, and you can only play my favorite opening with e4, the parham.

Shawkshank is right. D4 is passive bc those who play d4 usually do it because it's safe. Theoretical it is very aggressive but e4 in human terms is more aggressive. E4 is striking a claim at the center with nothing protecting on the first move.  e4 Much more bold. 

GiorgiVanDerway

e4 is the most agressive opening move but by no means is d4 a passive opening there are many agressive lines in d4 openings. also just because you are not atack the enemy king its does not mean that your playing passivly. you seem to have a confusion between positonal and tactical thinking positonal gamees are passive and tactical games are agressive.

GiorgiVanDerway

Alot of d4 games are open..

TheGreatOogieBoogie
jerry2468 wrote:

The KG is not "busted". It's no longer played at top levels, because black achieves equality, but you can't call it "busted".

http://www.academicchess.org/images/pdf/chessgames/fischerbust.pdf

 

Though I strongly disagree with the taking the beauty out of chess part:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1262415

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1068430

In the first notice the gorgeous pawn structure, and in the second take special note of white's elegant piece coordination and how he brings the king to the queenside where it's needed more, and then back to the kingside when the queenside weaknesses were taken care of. 



GiorgiVanDerway
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shepi13

How can anyone call d4 passive??

Matthew11

I'm bluntly bored of 1.d4. Why does it always end up as a queens gambit line? Perhaps because it is much safer than gambit on the kingside.

shepi13

Seriously, this isn't either passive or boring.

shepi13

Anyone who calls these positions passive does not understand chess. They are all in mainline d4 openings.

iliketosneeze

D4 tends to be boring.... E4 is all tactical when my opponents play the queens gambit I do the albin counter gambit really messes up all their positional play and turns it into tactical