You don't know what you are talking about. Name a well-known chess teacher who teaches what you are asserting regarding the London System. That is, you can play the same moves in the same sequence regardless of the moves your opponent plays. You can't.
I never said the same sequence. I said the same set of moves.
You changed your sentence so you realised I might be right.
There's no point in debating with the clueless.
Lol. I won't debate with you then.
I mean I don’t have a thing against the London but there is actually a lot of theory to it regardless how it’s promoted. There is literally a handful of ways that black can equalize.
From a reality point of view, the London becomes your crutch as an aspiring player when you start losing and start asking yourself why?
Just some evidence, going through the most common moves in the lichess player database.
Out of 3 totally different setups for black, white's setup looks the exact same. This is the point of the London.
I mean I don’t have a thing against the London but there is actually a lot of theory to it regardless how it’s promoted. There is literally a handful of ways that black can equalize.
From a reality point of view, the London becomes your crutch as an aspiring player when you start losing and start asking yourself why?
Even Eric Rosen has had some difficulties playing the London in classical tournaments. That's why he plays other openings.
The London is mostly used as a blitz weapon to just play the same first few moves without thinking about it.
I mean I don’t have a thing against the London but there is actually a lot of theory to it regardless how it’s promoted. There is literally a handful of ways that black can equalize.
From a reality point of view, the London becomes your crutch as an aspiring player when you start losing and start asking yourself why?
Even Eric Rosen has had some difficulties playing the London in classical tournaments. That's why he plays other openings.
The London is mostly used as a blitz weapon to just play the same first few moves without thinking about it.
In a classical 90/30 time format, I would welcome the London and even the Alapin because I am ensured a comfortable game but with added time to win the end game.
I’m not worried about being blown out of the waters in a London Game.
Blitz and bullet, it’s a tic tac toe game to nurse a pawn for an end game.
The other player also has the time to calculate as well and they are generally providing drawn endgames. It's just been seen too many times that in these classical games, the London doesn't provide anything interesting or crazy for white and then reaches these drawn positions. When the players have time to figure it out, there's just not enough imbalance.
In shorter time controls, any game is more unpredictable when there isn't enough time to think about every move.
The Alapin is also very yuck. Lol.
The other player also has the time to calculate as well and they are generally providing drawn endgames. It's just been seen too many times that in these classical games, the London doesn't provide anything interesting or crazy for white and then reaches these drawn positions. When the players have time to figure it out, there's just not enough imbalance.
In shorter time controls, any game is more unpredictable when there isn't enough time to think about every move.
The Alapin is also very yuck. Lol.
I play a Grunfeld Game against the London and Dragon transposition against the Alapin, so I’m not missing out on imbalance positions and counter play; which is what I play for.
I had a bunch of drawn positions tonight albeit 5/5 blitz, I wasn’t motivated to play it thru so oh well?
In a 15/10 and definitely 90/30; I would put the effort into a draw by repetition, but is that what you really wanna see at a coffee shop or park game?
All openings need skill, and have theory. So this applies for the London as well, which is usually badly mishandled by people who thoughtlessly play the same moves without paying attention to what the opponent is doing.
To learn how to play the London System well.....(includes the best books on the London)...
Introduction To The London System & Jobava London System...
https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/the-london-system
https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell
To learn how to play the London System well.....(includes the best books on the London)...
Introduction To The London System & Jobava London System...
My blog better
(jk obv lol, yours is more of an instructive blog than an argumentative one like mine)
To learn how to play the London System well.....(includes the best books on the London)...
Introduction To The London System & Jobava London System...
My blog better
(jk obv lol, yours is more of an instructive blog than an argumentative one like mine)
I read your blog article on the London (you posted a link earlier above). It was interesting! Anyone who is trying to decide whether to play the London would do well to check it out.
@Chuck639
Ah I see, you meant playing against them. Makes sense.
Yes, if white is playing more passively with the London and Alapin then black has nothing to be concerned about.
You don't know what you are talking about. Name a well-known chess teacher who teaches what you are asserting regarding the London System. That is, you can play the same moves in the same sequence regardless of the moves your opponent plays. You can't.
I never said the same sequence. I said the same set of moves.
You changed your sentence so you realised I might be right.
Levy (much as I hate to admit it) isn't as incompetent as you say. He actually does recommend changing the moves depending on what Black plays (e.g. if Black gets the LSB out of the pawn chain, c4 and Qb3 rather than c3 and Qc2)
You don't know what you are talking about. Name a well-known chess teacher who teaches what you are asserting regarding the London System. That is, you can play the same moves in the same sequence regardless of the moves your opponent plays. You can't.
I never said the same sequence. I said the same set of moves.
You changed your sentence so you realised I might be right.
Levy (much as I hate to admit it) isn't as incompetent as you say. He actually does recommend changing the moves depending on what Black plays (e.g. if Black gets the LSB out of the pawn chain, c4 and Qb3 rather than c3 and Qc2)
I don't know what he says in his YouTube channel, which after all would have a key operating metric of views per month, in some of his own games I've looked into ( when there was a repertoire overlap ), he's actually very well prepared in the openings he plays.
You don't know what you are talking about. Name a well-known chess teacher who teaches what you are asserting regarding the London System. That is, you can play the same moves in the same sequence regardless of the moves your opponent plays. You can't.
I never said the same sequence. I said the same set of moves.
You changed your sentence so you realised I might be right.
Levy (much as I hate to admit it) isn't as incompetent as you say. He actually does recommend changing the moves depending on what Black plays (e.g. if Black gets the LSB out of the pawn chain, c4 and Qb3 rather than c3 and Qc2)
I don't know what he says in his YouTube channel, which after all would have a key operating metric of views per month, in some of his own games I've looked into ( when there was a repertoire overlap ), he's actually very well prepared in the openings he plays.
The one instructive thing on his whole channel is Guess the Elo, and only because it lists off beginner mistakes constantly. I actually learned a lot from it and had a lot of fun watching it.
You don't know what you are talking about. Name a well-known chess teacher who teaches what you are asserting regarding the London System. That is, you can play the same moves in the same sequence regardless of the moves your opponent plays. You can't.
I never said the same sequence. I said the same set of moves.
You changed your sentence so you realised I might be right.
Levy (much as I hate to admit it) isn't as incompetent as you say. He actually does recommend changing the moves depending on what Black plays (e.g. if Black gets the LSB out of the pawn chain, c4 and Qb3 rather than c3 and Qc2)
I don't know what he says in his YouTube channel, which after all would have a key operating metric of views per month, in some of his own games I've looked into ( when there was a repertoire overlap ), he's actually very well prepared in the openings he plays.
The one instructive thing on his whole channel is Guess the Elo, and only because it lists off beginner mistakes constantly. I actually learned a lot from it and had a lot of fun watching it.
I watch little YouTube material because it's not an efficient way to mine interesting lines. If a YouTube vid line is great after all, someone will play it and at that point one can curate the line into their repertoire. For other stuff, eg analysed games, I prefer books as it reduces my screen time, I've seen some great names on YouTube though like Seirawan.
So no comments on his channel, I haven't watched it ( no affiliation with him or the channel either ).
The stuff he plays OTB though shows serious opening preparation, perhaps it's different to what he presents in his videos (?)
I give up. There's no point in debating with the clueless.