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LilChessington101

Im a relatively active player who worships chessable and has a solid opening repetoire, other then the fact that i'm lost when my opponent plays 1.d4. I play the french against e4 and own Yuriy Krykun's fabulous course, the unexplored french defense but his other course on the accelerated QID just was not working for me, struggling to tackle all my other courses, those daunting 600 variations were not helping. I've tried the benko, the kings indian, and as aforementioned the QID but they're just not working. Now I thought I had found the perfect solution, the semi-slav. But then I had no idea how to counter the London, and anything other than the queens gambit. If I were to find a reasonably priced course for £15 or so that gave a really solid game for black that started with nf6 I'd be all good as there are 2 free courses on chessable to tackle the london and trompowsky with 1. nf6. Any thoughts? Would really appreciate some help.

Jeffbobkins
I recommend the kings Indian as it’s a system based opening and has a clear middle game plan but that’s just my opinion 🤷‍♂️
BringBackDemon1
Jeffbobkins wrote:
I recommend the kings Indian as it’s a system based opening and has a clear middle game plan but that’s just my opinion 🤷‍♂️

I play the King's indian, but I didn't learn the opening from any opening book. I learned the opening by studying the middlegame structures and after you've understood the possible structures, you don't need tons of theory to play the opening. I disagree that it's a system based opening; after the first, let's say, five moves, there are many directions that black or white can take the game.

Ethan_Brollier
B1ZMARK wrote:
Jeffbobkins wrote:
I recommend the kings Indian as it’s a system based opening and has a clear middle game plan but that’s just my opinion 🤷‍♂️

I play the King's indian, but I didn't learn the opening from any opening book. I learned the opening by studying the middlegame structures and after you've understood the possible structures, you don't need tons of theory to play the opening. I disagree that it's a system based opening; after the first, let's say, five moves, there are many directions that black or white can take the game.

Agreed. It's on the complete opposite end of the spectrum from system openings. Theory is also not mandatory until like 2100 or higher.

lassus_dinnao
Idk I use a mixture of nimzo-indian and queens indian ideas, 1) dont allow e4; 2) do NOT allow e4; 3) get a e6-d5-c5-b6 pawn structure and play from there
tygxc

@1

"I play the french against e4" ++ Then either Queen's Gambit Declined or the Nimzovich Indian Defense / Queen's Indian Defense may suit you.

"the accelerated QID" ++ What is that? Queen's Indian Defense is 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3 b6.

"they're just not working" ++ Do not blame your losses on the opening.

"a really solid game for black that started with nf6"
++ Either 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3/Nf3 d5, or 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Bb4 or 3 Nf3 b6.

Daft21

if you feel overwhelmed by too many variations you have to know in other parts of your repertoire i recommend the QGD. You can adopt it as universal system against everything but 1.e4.

A coach with whom i worked with recommended the KID for people who like the french because of its closed agressive nature.

Chess16723
#6 With accelerated QID he may be referring to 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 b6 which is listed in some opening books as Accelerated Queen’s Indian
Shoot_checkmate_is_comin
LilChessington101 写道:

Im a relatively active player who worships chessable and has a solid opening repetoire, other then the fact that i'm lost when my opponent plays 1.d4. I play the french against e4 and own Yuriy Krykun's fabulous course, the unexplored french defense but his other course on the accelerated QID just was not working for me, struggling to tackle all my other courses, those daunting 600 variations were not helping. I've tried the benko, the kings indian, and as aforementioned the QID but they're just not working. Now I thought I had found the perfect solution, the semi-slav. But then I had no idea how to counter the London, and anything other than the queens gambit. If I were to find a reasonably priced course for £15 or so that gave a really solid game for black that started with nf6 I'd be all good as there are 2 free courses on chessable to tackle the london and trompowsky with 1. nf6. Any thoughts? Would really appreciate some help.

Try the Caro-Kann

Nachthaube

@Shoot_checkmate_is_comin That's not an opening against 1. d4. And 1. d4 c6 (hoping for 2. e4) is just bad.

Laskersnephew
Post a couple of your 1.d4 disasters. I bet that when we look them over, the opening isn’t what killed you
blueemu
B1ZMARK wrote:
Jeffbobkins wrote:
I recommend the kings Indian as it’s a system based opening and has a clear middle game plan but that’s just my opinion 🤷‍♂️

I play the King's indian, but I didn't learn the opening from any opening book. I learned the opening by studying the middlegame structures and after you've understood the possible structures, you don't need tons of theory to play the opening. I disagree that it's a system based opening; after the first, let's say, five moves, there are many directions that black or white can take the game.

This.

Very much this.

I play the King's Indian Defense as my main Black weapon against the Queen's Pawn. Specifically, the KID Panno if the course of the early opening allows it. I don't know theory. Virtually none. I don't know opening lines. What's a Bayonnet Attack?

What I do know is middle-game structures, typical plans, typical Pawn levers, typical tactical ideas. And I do fine.

RussBell

@LilChessington101 -

Keep It Simple for Black by Chrisof Sioelecki..

This is a complete defense-repertoire against 1. e4, 1.d4, 1.c4 and 1.Nf3 including against the London System.

It's also available as a Chessable course.

It was WINNER of the Chessable Best Opening Course & Course of the Year 2021

Against 1.e4 you will play the Caro-Kann, Tartakower Variation...

Caro-Kann: Tartakower Variation (Caro-Kann Masterclass) - ChessGeek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsnITf68J5w

Master Class | Caro-Kann, Tartakower | Chess Speedrun | Grandmaster Naroditsky...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPVp5TWZR0w

A *SIMPLE* Way to Beat the London System- ChessGeek...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49lZsLFkAr8

You might also check out the anti-London stuff here...

Introduction To The London System & Jobava London System...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/the-london-system

DinoBambik

If u looking for sharp weapon against london system with second 2. Bf4 move order.
i highly recomend this variation: https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/pgn/5Az4Mr5XFc?tab=review&move=61 this is the game between GM Zbigniew Pakleza who is well known London system player and the best polish player GM Jan-Krzysztof Duda playing Black.

tygxc

@12

"What's a Bayonnet Attack?" ++ Bayonet Attack: 9 b4
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1070932